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WHO WON??

Sony's PS3 419 34.57%
 
Microsoft's Xbox 360 102 8.42%
 
Nintendo's Wii 691 57.01%
 
Total:1,212
RolStoppable said:
mibuokami said:

Sony expirience no 'pyrrhic' this gen, they need to first get a victory before that's applicable. Given the position Sony was in at the end of the PS2 era, the PS3 is an outright failure.

You are right in the former though and I'll concede the point, my perspective encompasses Nintendo's bussiness direction, which is not the question the OP asked. But to explain my perspective; my opinion is that the success of the Wii with the expanded audience and the subsequent exodus of the core audience damage the brand and decrease the chance of the successor when it got painted in the same brush and failed to also capture the expanded audience.

The pyrrhic victory here should really be Nintendo's and not the Wii.

I don't think there has been an exodus of Nintendo's core audience (and if you are refering to a different core audience, the GameCube already showed that Nintendo didn't have it). The Wii U just so happens to be the most expensive Nintendo console by far and also went through a serious software drought right after launch. And if you believe that the Wii caught on with the expanded audience because it did away with the dual analog stick controller and had Wii Sports (which is absolutely the case), then it's obvious why the Wii U gets ignored (because it's nothing like the Wii).

That doesn't make Nintendo's victory pyrrhic, it just shows that they are morons for doing a 180 with the Wii successor.

Good point, well thought out and definitely leave me with food for thoughts on my original opinion, you have my thanks.

And lol PS3.




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RolStoppable said:
mibuokami said:

Sony expirience no 'pyrrhic' this gen, they need to first get a victory before that's applicable. Given the position Sony was in at the end of the PS2 era, the PS3 is an outright failure.

You are right in the former though and I'll concede the point, my perspective encompasses Nintendo's bussiness direction, which is not the question the OP asked. But to explain my perspective; my opinion is that the success of the Wii with the expanded audience and the subsequent exodus of the core audience damage the brand and decrease the chance of the successor when it got painted in the same brush and failed to also capture the expanded audience.

The pyrrhic victory here should really be Nintendo's and not the Wii.

I don't think there has been an exodus of Nintendo's core audience (and if you are refering to a different core audience, the GameCube already showed that Nintendo didn't have it). The Wii U just so happens to be the most expensive Nintendo console by far and also went through a serious software drought right after launch. And if you believe that the Wii caught on with the expanded audience because it did away with the dual analog stick controller and had Wii Sports (which is absolutely the case), then it's obvious why the Wii U gets ignored (because it's nothing like the Wii).

That doesn't make Nintendo's victory pyrrhic, it just shows that they are morons for doing a 180 with the Wii successor.

 

are they morons for keeping their promise however? the Wii was initially targeted at both the Hardcore and Casual audience, but the Casuals bought it more due to more "casual-appealing" games like Wii Sports, Mario Kart Wii(can be hardcore if played competitively, but the game itself introduced so little that the game looked more casual), and a lot more casual titles.

however, at the Wii U's reveal, they revealed that their plan was that the Wii U is targeted at Hardcore gamers and that they're the main focus, and with the great titles they have coming up like Bayonetta2, SMT X FE, and the fantastic looking X that is the sequel to one of the best, if not the best RPG of the 7th gen, alongside some huge system sellers like Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros, it seems like that they are really pushing hard to get their Hardcore audience back after the Wii's casual flood.

and we already know that after the inevitable sales boost, 3rd parties are gonna start treating the Wii U better, Ubisoft already said that they will make more exclusives and support the Console more than they do now (which is a lot already), EA backtracked after the Xbone's reveal and Reggie confirmed that they already have some titles in development, and we will probably see more 3rd party support as the WiiU fanbase grows over the years, I heard Crytek got CryEngine3 running great on the Wii U and that Crysis3 ran beautifully, so I hope to see more from them if EA's relationship with Nintendo hopefully improves.

it perfectly makes sense to reach out for the Hardcore audience again considering the casuals are into tablets and smartphones now



stupid question, obvious answer, wii
anyone that tries to argue otherwise is deluding themselves



HikenNoAce said:
ChrolloLucilfer said:
HikenNoAce said:
Lol @ people saying that Nintendo won during the PS2 era.

Well the financial figures over that period do show Nintendo were in fact making more money than sony in the ps2/ps1 era in all but 1 year. While Nintendo weren't winning regards of market share they were winning in regards to profit.


That's what I'm talking about. I wasn't on forums back then but were people claiming the same thing during that generation?

Probably, as the sales figures wouldn’t be that hard to find even back then. Even without them I don't think it would that controversial to think that Nintendo were holding their own or even beating Sony at the time. As Nintendo were selling a lot more First Party Software than Sony and it's easy to realize you make several time more on successful First Party Software than do on Third Party royalities. Add to that domanting in Handheld console/software sales at the time and Pokemon massive success also.



The Wii, obviously, but I think Sony did the best job this gen. They started out insane and arrogant, but they turned it around and has kept it up to the end. Nintendo and MS did kinda the opposite. I think the later half of both the Wii and 360 has been headshakingly terrible.



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Wii was first, PS3 second and 360 third.  I judge console sales on who won a generation, nothing else is as important imo and PS3 recently passed the 360.



Depends on the criteria. Short answer would be Nintendo but besides the great sales I think it was the most disappointing console in terms of 3rd party support and online.

Nintendo had most sales in hardware and software as well as profits.

Sony- Arguably the strongest catalog and much improved Network. has a chance to surpass Wii hardware sales.

Microsoft- Much better hardware sales compared to the previous gen and dominating in North America/UK.

My personal preference is Sony although I recognise that for now the Wii should be considered the winner.




 

 

pokymon90 said:
Microsoft made more money from Xbox........so obviously Xbox 360 won the 7th generation of consoles.


Xbox 360 just about broke even and the division is still billions in debt from the first one.  The PS3 broke even too, but the division IS NOT in debt because of the PS1, PS2, and PSP's success.   

The Wii at the end of the day made the most money by far so they did at the end of the day "Win."  

However I would say the PS3 set itself up with enough momentum to win next gen while the Wii had no momentum.  But again technically that is another generation...



Captain_Tom said:
pokymon90 said:
Microsoft made more money from Xbox........so obviously Xbox 360 won the 7th generation of consoles.


Xbox 360 just about broke even and the division is still billions in debt from the first one.  The PS3 broke even too, but the division IS NOT in debt because of the PS1, PS2, and PSP's success.   

The Wii at the end of the day made the most money by far so they did at the end of the day "Win."  

However I would say the PS3 set itself up with enough momentum to win next gen while the Wii had no momentum.  But again technically that is another generation...


Can you give us the figures?  I'd be interested in seeing them



For now Nintendo... in two/three years Sony... PS3 will finish this race in first.