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ethomaz on 18 June 2013
walsufnir said:
Without context we don't know what power he means and how he measures it. People believing in the downclock now only wish this is to happen.
Look at the games they showed (the games that actually ran on the box) and tell me this is possible on WiiU...

For me the graphics at the show are below at I saw in E3.



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ethomaz on 18 June 2013

walsufnir said:

yield issues don't result in downclock - only in wasted chips, less outcome of good chips. still please stop making people believe ps4 is 2x the power of xbone by now until anything is assured. i highly doubt you know how he measures power - without context the sentence is useless.

Exactly... downclock results in less wasted chips... so yields issues fixed for launch.



walsufnir on 18 June 2013
ethomaz said:
walsufnir said:
Without context we don't know what power he means and how he measures it. People believing in the downclock now only wish this is to happen.
Look at the games they showed (the games that actually ran on the box) and tell me this is possible on WiiU...

For me the graphics at the show are below at I saw in E3.

I can't understand what you wrote :(



ethomaz on 18 June 2013

walsufnir said:

I can't understand what you wrote :(

Watch the video in 1080p... the graphics of the games showed today are in way close to what was showed at E3.



walsufnir on 18 June 2013
ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

yield issues don't result in downclock - only in wasted chips, less outcome of good chips. still please stop making people believe ps4 is 2x the power of xbone by now until anything is assured. i highly doubt you know how he measures power - without context the sentence is useless.

Exactly... downclock results in less wasted chips... so yields issues fixed for launch.


@bold not necessarily. I don't believe the downclock until it's proven. I think they take the less chip-outcome by now to not destroy devs at this time.



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HoloDust on 18 June 2013
ethomaz said:

HoloDust said:

Nope. 7770 level GPU in XOne is 8x 360 (which MS pretty much confirmed). PS4 is 12x 360.

But I'm sure there will be certain individuals here who still believe that 7th to 8th gen jump is not so big that will call this crazy talk. ;)

PS4 = 1.84TFLOPS / 240GFLOPS = ~7.5x

Xbone = 1.2TFLOPS / 240GFLOPS = ~5x
Xbone = 900GLOPS / 240GLOPS = ~3.5x * downgrade rumor

12x lol

Et tu ethomaz? ;)

Dude, never compare FLOPS of two different architectures and make conclusions from that - PS4/XOne are GCN, 360 is old VLIW5.

Here, this will help, it's represents aggregate of lot of benchmarks for gfx cards, so comparison is pretty easy with it (360 is around 12VP):

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21797&start=0



ethomaz on 18 June 2013

HoloDust said:

Et tu ethomaz? ;)

Dude, never compare FLOPS of two different architectures and make conclusions from that - PS4/XOne are GCN, 360 is old VLIW5.

Here, this will help, it's represents aggregate of lot of benchmarks for gfx cards, so comparison is pretty easy with it (360 is around 12VP):

http://alienbabeltech.com/abt/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21797&start=0

Interesting table... now tell me how you calculate this 12VP to 360 GPU?

Because if that table is right the 360 GPU is more close to 18VP than 12VP.

Edit - Just to be clear the 360 GPU is equivalent to Radeon X1800.



ethomaz on 18 June 2013



ethomaz on 18 June 2013

Updated OP with twitter update...



ethomaz on 18 June 2013

He read GAF lol