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VGKing on 15 June 2013

Because having our rights taken away from us is something we don't take lightly.



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Juma009 on 16 June 2013
animegaming said:
Euphoria14 said:

First it will be the used games industry. Then after things don't go as planned they'll find something new to blame their customers on and raise game prices.


i remember they use to blame piracy but if they do kill use games i will look forward to how they scrample to find something else to blame low game sells on maybe they will blame gamestop for making a couple bucks off a new game 


They'll blame production costs on putting games on discs formats and oxes and shippings blah blah moving on to the real goal, download only purchases.



SlayerRondo on 16 June 2013

Everytime I trade game's I get new games. Trade in's make it easier to find games a while after release.

Rentals allow me to try certain games before I buy them or sequels/prequels.



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Jay520 on 16 June 2013
VGKing said:
Because having our rights taken away from us is something we don't take lightly.


No one is taking away your right to buy used games. What's being changed is the console's ability to play those used games, which is not a right.

VGKing on 16 June 2013
Jay520 said:
VGKing said:
Because having our rights taken away from us is something we don't take lightly.


No one is taking away your right to buy used games. What's being changed is the console's ability to play those used games, which is not a right.

Our right to do whatever we wish with the game we bought is being taken away. That is a right.

Can you imagine if you couldn't lend a music CD to a friend or if you needed your stereo system to connect to the internet to verify you bought that CD? It's ridiculous.



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Red4ADevil on 16 June 2013

If only they would realize that they're not hollywood, then maybe they would not lose so much money. No game (like GTA IV) should cost 100M to make.



Alby_da_Wolf on 16 June 2013
Michael-5 said:
tracyllrkn said:

Becuase games are becoming more expensive to make. Who knows how much games will cost to make this gen.

Games are also in general selling better then they used to. Before the PS2 era it was unheard of to see a 3rd party game break 10 million units sold, now games like CoD sell 20 million annually.

Also the jump to next gen isn't that big, it's a 9x jump where the jump between 6th and 7th gen was 25x, and before that, even larger. Next gen games are still largely based on the same engines current gen games are based on, so there is a lot more recycling with code.

True. 6th gen total games sales for home consoles were between 1.6B and 2B, while 7th gen already sold more than 2.2B and it hasn't stopped yet. Agree also about 7th to 8th gen performance jump, not to mention that now that Sony too adopted a more conventional architecture, average dev cost will stay more under control, and MS and Sony adopting fundamentally a PC architecture, with Ninty sticking to an evolution of Wii architecture will help in that direction. Finally, a large amount of RAM will help too, 7th gen had really too little, it wasn't anymore matter of optimizing its use, but, in games with large levels and with many items in them, having to devise suboptimal dynamic loading strategies to make up for its lack, and dev costs grew beyond strictly necessary due to this.



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CDiablo on 16 June 2013

To answer the OP's question, I think it has become more of a big deal because once game companies got really big they got management that were business people. Back in the day game companies were run by a group of programmers and gamers that at many times were in it for the love of gaming as much as the money. Now that these corps are run by non gamers and shareholders the game industry has become about getting the most money out of gamers, regardless of whether it makes them happy or not.



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Jay520 on 16 June 2013
VGKing said:
Jay520 said:
VGKing said:
Because having our rights taken away from us is something we don't take lightly.


No one is taking away your right to buy used games. What's being changed is the console's ability to play those used games, which is not a right.

Our right to do whatever we wish with the game we bought is being taken away. That is a right.

Can you imagine if you couldn't lend a music CD to a friend or if you needed your stereo system to connect to the internet to verify you bought that CD? It's ridiculous.



You can do whatever you want with the game you bought. You can play it, sell it, lend it to a friend, etc. Nothing has changed. It's just that the machine your purchasing lacks the feature to play used games, but that's not a right. Microsoft's product doesn't have to be compatible with any discs they don't want it to be compatible with.

VGKing on 16 June 2013
Jay520 said:

You can do whatever you want with the game you bought. You can play it, sell it, lend it to a friend, etc. Nothing has changed. It's just that the machine your purchasing lacks the feature to play used games, but that's not a right. Microsoft's product doesn't have to be compatible with any discs they don't want it to be compatible with.

You'r wrong. Xbox One doesn't allow for lending/trading/renting games. Physical copies of games are locked to 1 account. If you want to lend this game to a friend, they have to be on your friends list for 30 days, then when you give them the game, you revoke your rights to it and it becomes theirs. They can't lend it to anyone else or give it back to you.