Well, both OSs do that.  However, the PS4 OS will probably only reserve maybe 10GB-20GB (just a guess).  MS saying SIGNIFICANT is very troubling.  I'm going to guess it may end up being closer to 80GB-100GB.  And considering the Xbox One's HDD isn't upgradable, I expect plenty of people to get pissed off when they realize how much storage they really have in the end.

Wow, that's terrible for Xbox 1 owners if the estimate is true. I suppose however, if you save all your stuff in the cloud then the lower memory won't be too much of a problem. Memory might actually be a bigger problem for PS4 owners. :S 

alright, i was doing some math to see how many people will be able to buy a xbox one and play games on it. so i went to the german version of wikipedia and looked up the population of the lands where it will be available.

i haven't found good data about the average percentage of internet access in western countries, so i left out that.

   

So all in all, Microsoft only supports ~17 per cent of the world population, assuming everyone of them has internet.

Terms include binding arbitration with class action waiver to resolve disputes.

Oh, wow. So they're going to data mine you 24/7, and you'll have no recourse against them no matter what they do. It just keeps getting better!

Lol, that's very poor reasoning and I know it was on purpose. That includes the largest video game markets. You're an intelligent guy, I've seen many of your posts and a lot of the time they're reasonable. Why post this rubbish?

It's the truth. i was bored and thinking of that, no one else did the maths, so i did it.

I'm sorry how do you draw such conclusion ? I don't understand legal statements at all. Data mining involves what ?

Data mining is collecting huge amounts of data and then sifting through it to discover patterns of behavior, for the purposes of, say, advertising. It's been speculated that this is a large part of the reason why Microsoft wants you connected 24/7, and why they want you to keep Kinect on 24/7. Also, the timing of the breaking of the PRISM story (US government demanding information about customers from companies, including Microsoft) couldn't be any worse.

The class action waiver part speaks for itself. They're saying you don't have the right to join a class action suit against them. This is pretty common, actually, and doesn't always hold up in court. I think Sony put this in their TOS after the PSN hack (equally funny, and equally unenforceable). But it's especially funny to see MS insisting that you agree to waive whatever rights you'll have left after they finalize the Xbone's policies.

PS4 is only confirmed to be launching in the US and Europe and you don't see us spinning anything like that. Fact or not. Give us a break. If the DRM is so bad, be happy the PS4 has an advantage instead of bashing our heads in every 2nd thread.

In many countries, including Italy, one-sided contracts or clauses in favour of the strongest party and damaging the weakest one are automatically void.