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Muffin31190 said:
Skeeuk said:
There isn't 1 single facet that's superior on xbox1 over ps4

I would say that the kinect is a better camera then the PSeye.

No question about that.  But then, ask yourself the other questions:

Why was there no mention or show of Kinect2 games, absolutely not the slightest hint of a demo of a good Kinect2 game? Could it be that MS was scared of Kinect's reputation for "silly wiggle games" they garnered? Kinect2 is the only real gamer advantage the XBox One has over the PS4, and MS chose to completely ignore it..

Now they sit here with an expensive $499 console (despite the fact that Kinect2 is "worth" a lot more than the $100 price difference to the PS4). This is just a train wreck continuing from the XBox One reveal, instead of showing its strength, MS fell into every trap Sony set up (or set up themselves with the endless drm/used games fiasco).



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sales2099 said:
michael_stutzer said:

Do you enjoy the games more when it doesn't show up  day one on consoles you don't own? How does that benefit you?

I get it first. Its first class treatment. How I feel that you have to wait is beside the point.

I stand by my previous comment. A PS gamer has to wait, get a PC version and neglect the PS4, or not play it at all.

If it wasn't for the moneyhatting those games would appear on every console. That is not a first class treatment, it is shitting on customers. 

I am just talking about principles. If you want to talk about exclusives it is not a good time when The Last Of Us launches in a few days lol.



Best of all Sony still have more cards to play, they have 20 first party exclusives year 1 with 12 new ips and we've not seen most of them including what Naughty Dog have been doing and Media Molecule and possibly another from sony santamonica.

Expect more bombshells in the run up to launch



michael_stutzer said:
sales2099 said:

I get it first. Its first class treatment. How I feel that you have to wait is beside the point.

I stand by my previous comment. A PS gamer has to wait, get a PC version and neglect the PS4, or not play it at all.

If it wasn't for the moneyhatting those games would appear on every console. That is not a first class treatment, it is shitting on customers. 

I am just talking about principles. If you want to Plants vs. Zombies vs The Last of Us more power to you.

"Shitting on non-Xbox customers" should be what you are saying.

I feel great knowing my console corp. is willing to moneyhat like that to give me that treatment PLUS invest heavily in 1st party games. 

lol comparing Plants vs Zombies to LOU. That game is just one of many that give Xbox gamers the first class treatment. X1 has plenty AAA games to hopefully rival Naughty Dog (hoping Black Tusk lives up to hype).

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Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

ironmanDX said:
Skeeuk said:
There isn't 1 single facet that's superior on xbox1 over ps4


Incorrect. It is heavier and larger, thus better for bludgeoning people.

 

It's also down to perspective!

your playing too much dead rising  

 

plus, i would rather die then bash my precious console on some jerks head !!



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Muffin31190 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Sony isn't taking any risk. Seems very smart.

MS... has other plans it seems.

Oh well, doesn't matter which box is more ideal. I just want the box with Halo 5 and 6.


I would have to Disagree with sony not taking a risk, they have always takin pretty big chances on the game department especially with titles like Heavy rain and LBP, but sure there werent too many of those types of games at there E3 conference but i believe them to take more risks then microsft atleast in that department.

Taking some risk with games does not compare to taking a risk with a console.

For example, releasing the PS3 $600 so it could have a Bluray player was a massive risk. So massive it cost Sony billions of dollars.

MS is taking a huge risk by going all digitial and requiring an online connection. MS could have played it safe and released a console similar to the PS4. Instead they're taking a risk that may already be hurting the brand.



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he forgot the most important part, games.

and both lost there even with both getting a lot of awesome games, paying for every single third party game to get some exclusive nonsense is so bad i can't even express how bad i think that is. use those millions for even more own studios god damn...



Mr Puggsly said:
Muffin31190 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Sony isn't taking any risk. Seems very smart.

MS... has other plans it seems.

Oh well, doesn't matter which box is more ideal. I just want the box with Halo 5 and 6.


I would have to Disagree with sony not taking a risk, they have always takin pretty big chances on the game department especially with titles like Heavy rain and LBP, but sure there werent too many of those types of games at there E3 conference but i believe them to take more risks then microsft atleast in that department.

Taking some risk with games does not compare to taking a risk with a console.

For example, releasing the PS3 $600 so it could have a Bluray player was a massive risk. So massive it cost Sony billions of dollars.

MS is taking a huge risk by going all digitial and requiring an online connection. MS could have played it safe and released a console similar to the PS4. Instead they're taking a risk that may already be hurting the brand.

I think it may be hurting the industry as a whole also.
And I do see your point, but I would also like the state that while sony took a risk with the Blu-ray in the PS3 I believe it eventually paid off as we know see that it is now in the XBone and also that Blu-ray is the new format for movies and almost everyone i know owns a Blu-Ray player (or a PS3), but i could agree with you in the fact that microsoft are taking a bigger risk with the DRM and what not, still I see sony doing more with games in the risk department.



crissindahouse said:
he forgot the most important part, games.

and both lost there even with both getting a lot of awesome games, paying for every single third party game to get some exclusive nonsense is so bad i can't even express how bad i think that is. use those millions for even more own studios god damn...


Great point. I hate exclusive chapters, characters, dlc etc. with a passion. Everyone paying the same amount should get the same game no matter what. Who knows how much they spend for this nonsense.



Muffin31190 said:

I think it may be hurting the industry as a whole also.
And I do see your point, but I would also like the state that while sony took a risk with the Blu-ray in the PS3 I believe it eventually paid off as we know see that it is now in the XBone and also that Blu-ray is the new format for movies and almost everyone i know owns a Blu-Ray player (or a PS3), but i could agree with you in the fact that microsoft are taking a bigger risk with the DRM and what not, still I see sony doing more with games in the risk department.

I merely pointed out Sony played it safe on the PS4. For some reasons this upsets you, but its true.

I don't want to argue about who takes more risk in the games department nor do I care.



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