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HikenNoAce said:
binary solo said:
PS3 doesn't count. Wii is already last gen for Ninty and it'll take several years before PS3 overtakes Wii. And it's not certain it will.

I think something disastrous has to happen to Sony, or console gaming over all, for Sony to not come out on top in gen 8. If console gaming in general nose dives because a lot of people will just stick with what they've got and move to mobile platforms, then Wii U could end up winning purely because they launched first and they have what could be an unassailable lead for a generation whose winning platform will only sell a total of 30-40 million units.

I don't think console gaming is dying. But I do think it is shrinking. I don't think any console will sell more than 80 million units this generation. Mark this post and come back to it in 6 year's time.


Wow, just wow.

Gamestop is reported to have said that they're expecting shrinkage this generation, by about 15%.

Also a biased view from a person working in mobile gaming but still take it for what you will, It's not just random nobody me saying it:

'While next-generation consoles, including the Wii U released by Nintendo late last year, will dominate E3, digital play has changed considerably from when their predecessors arrived some seven years ago.

Smartphones and tablet computers have powered a boom in games available for free, with money made from ads or in-game purchases.

"I think the console players will continue to be in denial about what is really going on," said Clive Downie, who spent 17 years at videogame titan Electronic Arts before becoming chief at mobile games platform company DeNA.

"People's time is being eroded, so console sales will be eroded by people playing on mobile devices." '



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ironmanDX said:
HikenNoAce said:
 

 

Just google PS4 + Bill of Materials. It's that simple. Also, $38-$50 for a 500GB HDD? Allow me to be skeptic.

The PS4 reveal trailer has 29M views on youtube. It's been advertised during the Champions League final which was viewed by 360,000,000 people. It's been covered in mainstream media outlet and you're saying that people don't know that the PS4 is coming?

PS consoles have long lives and that's a fact.

Again, no links or sources. You have nothing. As far as I'm aware, everything you type is made up.

It's been covered in mainstream media outlet and you're saying that people don't know that the PS4 is coming?

I said until it gets heavily advertized on TV, the average Joe won't know a thing. READ, THEN RESPOND.

What media outlet was it? 360,000,000? No source, no link?

Everyone in the world watched and loved the X1's reveal while they were on their magic carpets. Sadly, that statement holds as much "facts" as your whole argument about mainstream media outlets and 360 million people...

 

I'm talking about the Champions League final. 360M viewers. That's a lot of people to reach out to. And with 34M likes on PS Facebook page, I think it's safe to safe that most gamers already know that the PS4 is coming. Keep in mind that this isn't the same target audience as what Nintendo caters to.



binary solo said:
HikenNoAce said:
binary solo said:
PS3 doesn't count. Wii is already last gen for Ninty and it'll take several years before PS3 overtakes Wii. And it's not certain it will.

I think something disastrous has to happen to Sony, or console gaming over all, for Sony to not come out on top in gen 8. If console gaming in general nose dives because a lot of people will just stick with what they've got and move to mobile platforms, then Wii U could end up winning purely because they launched first and they have what could be an unassailable lead for a generation whose winning platform will only sell a total of 30-40 million units.

I don't think console gaming is dying. But I do think it is shrinking. I don't think any console will sell more than 80 million units this generation. Mark this post and come back to it in 6 year's time.


Wow, just wow.

Gamestop is reported to have said that they're expecting shrinkage this generation, by about 15%.

Also a biased view from a person working in mobile gaming but still take it for what you will, It's not just random nobody me saying it:

'While next-generation consoles, including the Wii U released by Nintendo late last year, will dominate E3, digital play has changed considerably from when their predecessors arrived some seven years ago.

Smartphones and tablet computers have powered a boom in games available for free, with money made from ads or in-game purchases.

"I think the console players will continue to be in denial about what is really going on," said Clive Downie, who spent 17 years at videogame titan Electronic Arts before becoming chief at mobile games platform company DeNA.

"People's time is being eroded, so console sales will be eroded by people playing on mobile devices." '


The only reason they are expecting shrinkage is because the casuals aren't on board with the WiiU like they were with the Wii.



HikenNoAce said:
ironmanDX said:
HikenNoAce said:
 

 

Just google PS4 + Bill of Materials. It's that simple. Also, $38-$50 for a 500GB HDD? Allow me to be skeptic.

The PS4 reveal trailer has 29M views on youtube. It's been advertised during the Champions League final which was viewed by 360,000,000 people. It's been covered in mainstream media outlet and you're saying that people don't know that the PS4 is coming?

PS consoles have long lives and that's a fact.

Again, no links or sources. You have nothing. As far as I'm aware, everything you type is made up.

It's been covered in mainstream media outlet and you're saying that people don't know that the PS4 is coming?

I said until it gets heavily advertized on TV, the average Joe won't know a thing. READ, THEN RESPOND.

What media outlet was it? 360,000,000? No source, no link?

Everyone in the world watched and loved the X1's reveal while they were on their magic carpets. Sadly, that statement holds as much "facts" as your whole argument about mainstream media outlets and 360 million people...

 

I'm talking about the Champions League final. 360M viewers. That's a lot of people to reach out to. And with 34M likes on PS Facebook page, I think it's safe to safe that most gamers already know that the PS4 is coming. Keep in mind that this isn't the same target audience as what Nintendo caters to.


We already cleared up the 360 million people thing. 34 million likes? Xbox has 21 million, it doesn't mean squat. Some WWE superstars/wrestlers for instance have over 10 million likes themselves meanwhile, the show is lucky to pull 5 million views... Facebook likes don't mean too much I'm afraid.



ironmanDX said:


We already cleared up the 360 million people thing. 34 million likes? Xbox has 21 million, it doesn't mean squat. Some WWE superstars/wrestlers for instance have over 10 million likes themselves meanwhile, the show is lucky to pull 5 million views... Facebook likes don't mean too much I'm afraid.


You didn't clear anything. Here's your link:

http://www.fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/newsitem=2434/title=champions+league+final+draws+tv+audience+of+360+million

Is that big enough of an advertisement for you or you're going to deny the fact that millions of gamers worldwide already know that the PS4 is coming?

Are you also going to deny that millions of people have learnt about the PS4 from the E3 news? Even the PS4 youtube trailer has more than 29M views.

I mean, seriously, what kind of logic are you using to come up with the conclusion that people don't know that the PS4 is coming and that they will stop buying the PS3 once ads start appearing on TV? I would very much like to hear that.



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HikenNoAce said:
ironmanDX said:


We already cleared up the 360 million people thing. 34 million likes? Xbox has 21 million, it doesn't mean squat. Some WWE superstars/wrestlers for instance have over 10 million likes themselves meanwhile, the show is lucky to pull 5 million views... Facebook likes don't mean too much I'm afraid.


You didn't clear anything. Here's your link:

http://www.fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/newsitem=2434/title=champions+league+final+draws+tv+audience+of+360+million

Is that big enough of an advertisement for you or you're going to deny the fact that millions of gamers worldwide already know that the PS4 is coming?

Are you also going to deny that millions of people have learnt about the PS4 from the E3 news? Even the PS4 youtube trailer has more than 29M views.

I mean, seriously, what kind of logic are you using to come up with the conclusion that people don't know that the PS4 is coming and that they will stop buying the PS3 once ads start appearing on TV? I would very much like to hear that.


Are you sure there was an ad in the first place? Logic? Look at the slow ass launches of the consoles lately... Are you expecting the PS4 to sell 360,000,000? 29 million? YouTube views can be the same people dude. Given Sony's strong online position, it's very likely.



ironmanDX said:
HikenNoAce said:
ironmanDX said:


We already cleared up the 360 million people thing. 34 million likes? Xbox has 21 million, it doesn't mean squat. Some WWE superstars/wrestlers for instance have over 10 million likes themselves meanwhile, the show is lucky to pull 5 million views... Facebook likes don't mean too much I'm afraid.


You didn't clear anything. Here's your link:

http://www.fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/newsitem=2434/title=champions+league+final+draws+tv+audience+of+360+million

Is that big enough of an advertisement for you or you're going to deny the fact that millions of gamers worldwide already know that the PS4 is coming?

Are you also going to deny that millions of people have learnt about the PS4 from the E3 news? Even the PS4 youtube trailer has more than 29M views.

I mean, seriously, what kind of logic are you using to come up with the conclusion that people don't know that the PS4 is coming and that they will stop buying the PS3 once ads start appearing on TV? I would very much like to hear that.


Are you sure there was an ad in the first place? Logic? Look at the slow ass launches of the consoles lately... Are you expecting the PS4 to sell 360,000,000? 29 million? YouTube views can be the same people dude. Given Sony's strong online position, it's very likely.


Dude, learn to use google. Of course, there was an ad.

Tell you what, how about you come back to me when the PS3 sales slow down. As of right now the numbers are on my side - the PS3 is selling really well.



HikenNoAce said:


Dude, learn to use google. Of course, there was an ad.

Tell you what, how about you come back to me when the PS3 sales slow down. As of right now the numbers are on my side - the PS3 is selling really well.


Dude, learn to read. I said the PS3 sales will drop when the PS4 is heavily advertized and it's released.



ironmanDX said:
HikenNoAce said:
 


Dude, learn to use google. Of course, there was an ad.

Tell you what, how about you come back to me when the PS3 sales slow down. As of right now the numbers are on my side - the PS3 is selling really well.


Dude, learn to read. I said the PS3 sales will drop when the PS4 is heavily advertized and it's released.


Ah, just liked the PS1 sales dropped when the PS2 was heavily advertised and released, right? Or like when the PS2 sales dropped when the PS3 was heavily advertised and released, right?



HikenNoAce said:
ironmanDX said:
HikenNoAce said:
 


Dude, learn to use google. Of course, there was an ad.

Tell you what, how about you come back to me when the PS3 sales slow down. As of right now the numbers are on my side - the PS3 is selling really well.


Dude, learn to read. I said the PS3 sales will drop when the PS4 is heavily advertized and it's released.


Ah, just liked the PS1 sales dropped when the PS2 was heavily advertised and released, right? Or like when the PS2 sales dropped when the PS3 was heavily advertised and released, right?

You've already said that! Do you honestly even read your own posts as you type them? This conversation will go nowhere that way. You're obviously new here so welcome anyway!