Your joking right?  That the arguements aren't mathematical was my point on why formal logic is misplaced.  Also, I didn't say the textbook I mentioned... but the textbook HE mentioned.   So, since those were your main objections... I guess you suddenly agree with me now?

He was trying to apply formal logic, for this kind of statement, the correct kind of logic to use would either be the scientific method.  (Take a statement, assume the opposite and see if you can definitivly prove it or not.  If inconclusive assume either is equally possible.)

Or Philosophical logic.  Point out what is specifically said, what it means and what it rules out.  Everything else is up in the air.

Also... why would I WANT the PS4 to have more DRM.   That's just stupid.  The 360 is by far the least played gaming device i've ever owned... and I never had an Xbox.  I own a PS3... and i've used it a hell of a lot more.  As well as every other sony system i've owned.  Which has been every one but the Vita.

The main difference is I take all comments from companies from a skeptical point of view... because well.  That's what companies do, they embellish and misdirect.  It's more or less a giant part of their job.

That's why companies have PR departments in the first place.

The fact that you can't find the mathmatical logic in that summary shows you shouldn't be the one argueing this point.   "Symbolic Logic" is another term for Mathmatical Logic.  (So is Categorical, though a different kind)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic

Informal isn't, but what he described wasn't informal logic.  (Since informal logic requires you find and disect the unstated assumptions... which is what i've been doing... while he's been saying we should ignore all unstated assumptions that might not hold true.)

You replied that his text book was soley about mathematical logic. You are wrong. Dead wrong

The way I see it sony is just taking a its not us forcing you to be connected its the publisher blame them

You are definitely not using logic, you are just making assumptions based on your bias towards big companies. If you think them saying things like it can be played old school style with no intenet connection at all is misleading, then you are not using logic, you are being suspicious, pessimistic and biased, there is no logic to it. What elso could they say to be more clear? Where does logic dictate that you assume everyone is lying, or at least hiding something? Logic dictates you take something at face value, not with bias or assumptions, as you are doing.

No I didn't.  I said the textbook and class he talked about suggested he was talking about mathmatical logic.  Which they do... because the textbook covers two kinds of mathmatical logic (the kind he's using appears to be symbolic) and the class likely covered all three of those forms of logic (if not more).  Which he seems to have conflated into 1 specfic thing.

Regardless, you are argueing a complete nonsequitor from the arguement at this point because you don't have the basic knowledge to argue the premise and want to "win".

The statement is "PS4 will not have DRM because of what they've said".

To disprove this, all one needs to do is point out a way in which this statement is false.  To do so doesn't prove that there is DRM (which i wouldn't assume to be the case) but does prove that the statements are invalid.

Furthermore, by comparing like with like... IE next generation "High graphic/processing" games with the Xone and PS4 vs the Wii U, and systems with lower graphics and processing, I show why it's likely there will be some way publishers will try and differentiate the PS4 games so they get an equal value as they would Xone, or would seek to push Xone sales. 

Be this through Xone like DRM for games individually, CD Keys, Online passes or just limited edition/timed exlusive/special content for the Xone/PS3 games.

The second part is debatable, but definitly can't be ruled out... and does make sense from a logical perspective.

Its not missleading but since the ps4 can have drm even if its from a publisher its still drm on the ps4.  All that quote means is that at the very least every first party game cane be played offline

What makes sense from a logical perspective is to believe what sony said, unless they say or show otherwise. You are not applying logic. You are disregarding their statements as misleading due to your bias. Plain and Simple.

Thats how it works now. Thats what that statement says. Pretty much nothing is going to change unles 3rd parties do the changing. Lets apply some logic here. If 3rd parties have this same power now, and they all don't exercise it now, why would they do it next gen? Logic says it wouldn't change without some unknown influence. How many games are going to require online on a system that doesn't require online? I don't think many publishers are willing to alienate half of the install base (if next gen is anything like this gen) by doing that.

Like Puggsly said, I firmly believe Sony will have some form of DRM just not as rigorous as Microsoft's.

The statements by Sony so far have been vague in my opinion, not as clear as they would have been if there was no DRM.