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superchunk said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
superchunk said:
Good. I hope MS gets so much negative press that even the mass consumer won't touch it, not just the majority of peeps on forums like this.

Sony needs to realize the golden egg they've been handed. 3rd parties are already ignoring WiiU, but Sony could come out and say there will be no such system and clean up easily. Hell, I'd buy one just to prove the point.

It's very unlikely Sony would do anything like that.

Sony alreayd made the deals - see their statements on DRM. There is no real backtracking on such agreements.

Really? So EAs 180 on Nintendo is fictional? I guarantee you 100% its because Nintendo backed out of this proposed DRM and EA responsed in kind.

O, i'm pretty sure it did go that way. Nothing fictional.

But Sony is not Nintendo. They depend far to much on 3rd party to back out. They can't even offend EA because of just one franchise alone: FIFA. They need it to rule Europe.

Sony is already playing "pin the donkey", with blaming the developers themselves for their own DRM version.



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thranx said:

I wouldn't really count blogs as mainstream media. that takes forbes and wsj out. the only relevant ones for mainstream would be time and bbc. but maybe more will pop up. I saw an article on drudgereport.com too. I was suprised by that

Well gaming is not often mentioned in the mainstream media though. If it is, it's usually around the time of launch or announcement and many of these mainstream media sources clearly form part of their articles/news reports  by researching prior gaming media news and online reactions. In fact, many of them are poorly researched as we've laughed in the past numerous times at mainstream sources making mistakes in regards to reports on gaming.

There's been a lot of damage control and posters choosing to ignore the negativity of online gaming sources/youtube blogs/niche news as significant in terms of the selling power of a console. Although I agree it has limited penetration, the PS4 reveal video has 29 million views, hundreds of thousands of people are reading online blogs, watching gaming videos and reading comments. If the negativity is saturating the internet, it simply has to filter down to a portion of the average blissfully ignorant consumers, either through word of mouth or when they stumble across something.



 

Stefan.De.Machtige said:

O, i'm pretty sure it did go that way. Nothing fictional.

But Sony is not Nintendo. They depend far to much on 3rd party to back out. They can't even offend EA because of just one franchise alone: FIFA. They need it to rule Europe.

Sony is already playing "pin the donkey", with blaming the developers themselves for their own DRM version.

Difference is EA has already blacklisted Nintendo. They cannot afford to do the same to Sony. Same goes with other publishers, which is why I think Sony holds a great spot right now.



One of the interesting articles I found was an interview where EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said, "...it'll remain to be seen as to the services associated with those as to how consumers decide which direction they might want to go," about the PS4 and Xbox One (source). This made me feel like EA is going to have its eyes on whether consumers accept the DRM policies with the Xbox One, or go to an alternative direction with the PS4.

In general, I think Sony's third-party consumer audience is too big for the publishers to ignore (which is why I think a few people are overestimating the power publishers have over Sony), and if Sony's PS4 turns out to be a success without strict DRM, publishers are going to have to respond to that.



arcelonious said:

One of the interesting articles I found was an interview where EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said, "...it'll remain to be seen as to the services associated with those as to how consumers decide which direction they might want to go," about the PS4 and Xbox One (source). This made me feel like EA is going to have its eyes on whether consumers accept the DRM policies with the Xbox One, or go to an alternative direction with the PS4.


Thats really interesting, thanks for posting it.

Fingers crossed Sony keep things as they are now. Then fingers crossed the consumer knows what they need to do.



                            

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All i have heard pro-xbox consumers say all month is that the media was making the xbox one look amazing and help stimulate it's future sales, well here is proof they were very wrong.



Carl2291 said:
arcelonious said:

One of the interesting articles I found was an interview where EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said, "...it'll remain to be seen as to the services associated with those as to how consumers decide which direction they might want to go," about the PS4 and Xbox One (source). This made me feel like EA is going to have its eyes on whether consumers accept the DRM policies with the Xbox One, or go to an alternative direction with the PS4.


Thats really interesting, thanks for posting it.

Fingers crossed Sony keep things as they are now. Then fingers crossed the consumer knows what they need to do.


I agree, I'm hoping that Sony doesn't implement these policies, and I'm personally going to stand by the consoles that don't implement them (currently the Wii U).



superchunk said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:

O, i'm pretty sure it did go that way. Nothing fictional.

But Sony is not Nintendo. They depend far to much on 3rd party to back out. They can't even offend EA because of just one franchise alone: FIFA. They need it to rule Europe.

Sony is already playing "pin the donkey", with blaming the developers themselves for their own DRM version.

Difference is EA has already blacklisted Nintendo. They cannot afford to do the same to Sony. Same goes with other publishers, which is why I think Sony holds a great spot right now.

Yeah definitely not, I think they were actually making the most money on the PS3 platform for a few quarters, although that changed to PC in 2011 though I believe. Either way it would be a deathblow to remove the PS4 as well, unless they downsized massively.



 

fuuny this is all the microsoft execs are probably thinking. ah just let it pass, these consumers and the media dont know whats good for them. lets weather the storm and it will blow over soon. I hope no one buys this forcing them to change policies. all these policies are simply contractionary for the games industry and will actually lower revenue. pisses me off. I buy games new and sell them to buy the next one. thank flip for sony



arcelonious said:

One of the interesting articles I found was an interview where EA CFO Blake Jorgensen said, "...it'll remain to be seen as to the services associated with those as to how consumers decide which direction they might want to go," about the PS4 and Xbox One (source). This made me feel like EA is going to have its eyes on whether consumers accept the DRM policies with the Xbox One, or go to an alternative direction with the PS4.

In general, I think Sony's third-party consumer audience is too big for the publishers to ignore (which is why I think a few people are overestimating the power publishers have over Sony), and if Sony's PS4 turns out to be a success without strict DRM, publishers are going to have to respond to that.


very interesting

and at bolded: This is what I've been saying all along, Sony is just too big for 3rd party devs to ignore, I believe they'd take a bigger hit than Sony if they were to leave. All MS and Sony had to say was No and the 3rd party devs asking for this(which seems to be the big 3 EA, Ubisoft, Activision) would've been shut down and this DRM nonsense would be buried.