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Euphoria14 on 07 June 2013
Azerth said:
its the same as sony as its up to them why the x1 is getting all the bad press is not right. sony has said that its policy on used games is also left up to the publisher

If publishers decide not to use DRM on PS4, then you are in the clear. This is not the same for the XBone.

People keep comparing them and saying they are the same when they are completely different.



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MB1025 on 07 June 2013
Somini said:
Azerth said:
its the same as sony as its up to them why the x1 is getting all the bad press is not right. sony has said that its policy on used games is also left up to the publisher


Yes, but look at this generation. Only EA, Activision, Capcom and sometimes Ubisoft made use of the DRM available. A lot of publisher won't use this, especially the Japanese ones. The Xbox One has it for every game, you know that beforehand.

A chance is better than nothing at all. That's why Microsoft is getting more heat for it. But to be honest Microsoft is not being critisized for this alone. There is the TV focus and always online thing.


It was used for just online play because no one had a system in place for single player experiences. Both Sony and Microsoft have to impliment something into the system to actually have something block used games. I could by any EA game, even before they unlocked all their passes, used and play the entire game no problem. Now some content like multiplayer and DLC may not be there, but the game was.

So this is nothing like this past generation because Sony and Microsoft didn't have the system in place for it to work.



MB1025 on 07 June 2013
Euphoria14 said:
Azerth said:
its the same as sony as its up to them why the x1 is getting all the bad press is not right. sony has said that its policy on used games is also left up to the publisher

If publishers decide not to use DRM on PS4, then you are in the clear. This is not the same for the XBone.

People keep comparing them and saying they are the same when they are completely different.

So you think if one publisher has to do it on the Xbox One he will not do it on he PS4?



Azerth on 07 June 2013
kupomogli said:
Azerth said:
Somini said:
Azerth said:
its the same as sony as its up to them why the x1 is getting all the bad press is not right. sony has said that its policy on used games is also left up to the publisher


Yes, but look at this generation. Only EA, Activision, Capcom and sometimes Ubisoft made use of the DRM available. A lot of publisher won't use this, especially the Japanese ones. The Xbox One has it for every game, you know that beforehand.

A chance is better than nothing at all. That's why Microsoft is getting more heat for it. But to be honest Microsoft is not being critisized for this alone. There is the TV focus and always online thing.

yeah but do you honestly think that a company will have no used on system but not on the other so in the end there the same.

yeah i know about the other things but i think the tv thing will be fixed at e3 if they are true about it being just about games.  

and i think over time people will accept the online thing it may take awhile but i think ms will make it worth it in the end i could be wrong just my opion

That's like saying one person likes fish, so everyone has to like fish.  Just because Microsoft did it, does not make it obligatory for Sony to do the same.  

Just like that because Sony leaves it up to publishers, doesn't mean that publishers will actually go through with it.  Publishers already have the option to do so on the PS3 if they wanted to.  

Saying that all publishers are going to do it just because it's available is unrealistic.  Witcher 3 develoer, CD Projekt Red, has stated that they'll never use DRM because of the backlash they've had with Witcher 2 originally having DRM on it for the PC.  Rockstar stated that they they have no intereset in DRM.  There are a lot of small publishers that would be killed if they added DRM to their games.  They have small fanbases to begin with and you rarely see a lot of these niche games being sold used.

The only developers that I would think would ever use this used game policy is EA, Warner Bros, Activision, Square Enix, and Capcom.  I'd give Sega, Namco Bandai, and Koei a benefit of the doubt, but there's always the possibility as these three companies don't make the smartest decisions.

The thing is that x1s DRM is diff the a single game having DRM.  Most people probably hate drums because that company can't handle the server load of new players right away like what happened to sim city.  Ms can handle the server load because well there freaking rich beyond belief lol.  

So question say the very first game that DRM handled it perfectly it was if it didn't even have it.  Do you think people would still be this heated over it?

Also I ment was that I don't see a company saying no used games on x1 but yes to used on the ps4 it'll be a yes or no for both



the2real4mafol on 07 June 2013

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kitler53 on 07 June 2013
Somini said:
Weedlab said:
I get the impression Sony won't employ these measures for their first party titles, and that's all that matters to me since I love their games. I only own 3 games from EA (the Mass Effect games) and 0 from Activision, so that's not an issue for me. I love R*'s games, and they don't seem interested in employing those measures either. It's only Capcom I 'might' have an issue with, but with the backlash they've been getting, I won't be surprised if they shied away from that .... or not lulz


Sony will most definitely continue the Online Pass Program which is not that bad at all.


..it's not that good either.  annoys me to death even if MS's stance is infuriating.



Azerth on 07 June 2013
Euphoria14 said:
Azerth said:
its the same as sony as its up to them why the x1 is getting all the bad press is not right. sony has said that its policy on used games is also left up to the publisher

If publishers decide not to use DRM on PS4, then you are in the clear. This is not the same for the XBone.

People keep comparing them and saying they are the same when they are completely different.


Except this is about blocking used games which Sony has said is up to the publisher.  Plus Sony has a patent that can lock a disco to a console with even connecting to the internet.  



Euphoria14 on 07 June 2013
MB1025 said:
Euphoria14 said:
Azerth said:
its the same as sony as its up to them why the x1 is getting all the bad press is not right. sony has said that its policy on used games is also left up to the publisher

If publishers decide not to use DRM on PS4, then you are in the clear. This is not the same for the XBone.

People keep comparing them and saying they are the same when they are completely different.

So you think if one publisher has to do it on the Xbox One he will not do it on he PS4?

No, I don't.



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Euphoria14 on 07 June 2013
Azerth said:
Euphoria14 said:
Azerth said:
its the same as sony as its up to them why the x1 is getting all the bad press is not right. sony has said that its policy on used games is also left up to the publisher

If publishers decide not to use DRM on PS4, then you are in the clear. This is not the same for the XBone.

People keep comparing them and saying they are the same when they are completely different.


Except this is about blocking used games which Sony has said is up to the publisher.  Plus Sony has a patent that can lock a disco to a console with even connecting to the internet.  

3rd parties would be able to do anything they wanted either way. PS4 works for gaming 100% (No multiplayer of course) without any internet connection at all. PS4 does not require online registration for games. Sony has also stated that PS4 will not block used games. They said this directly after the PS4 reveal. So, with them heading into the market in a completely different direction, I am still unsure how 3rd parties will react. I will have to wait and see.

They have also been very very interactive with the community as well on the entire subject. It sounds like at the least all 1st party games won't have DRM. 

 

Why would I be worried right now? Why would I want to be paranoid?

 

 

If it happens it happens and I wouldn't buy their console. Right now though, it doesn't look that way. So, until it happens, I won't just put it on my mind for the sake of putting it on my mind.



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