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In the end, who "won" this (living room) console generation ?

Wii 356 56.33%
 
PS3 210 33.23%
 
X360 62 9.81%
 
Total:628
Mr Puggsly on 05 June 2013
Miguel_Zorro said:


That's a bit backwards.  Of course PS3 fans think the PS3 is the best console and 360 fans think the 360 is the best console.  If I think a console is the best, I'm going to buy it.  So to restate things - people who think the PS3 is the best console, buy the PS3.  People who think the 360 is the best console, buy the 360.

But what about the people that bought multiple consoses!?



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Osc89 on 05 June 2013
RolStoppable said:
Osc89 said:

Well with PlayStation the PS2 was still selling well when the PS3 came out so the brand was still going strong. It is simple to see the changes from one generation to the next with Nintendo, but Sony sells two consoles at once so the strength of their brand at any point is a combination.

It was easy for everyone to see that the strength of Sony's brand went down. But you stick with your reasoning that that has to be blamed on the PS2 rather than the PS3?


I wasn't blaming the PS2. I was saying there can't be a direct comparison of the launch of the PS3 with the launch of the Wii U when you are talking about the brand power. This is because the PlayStation brand covers 2 consoles at once, so the brand can be strong by selling PS2s on top of not many PS3s.

I do see the Wii U being unable to retain any gains made by the Wii, and that is because the Wii sold to people who attach no weight to "Nintendo" or "Wii" as brands, so they have gained no brand power. They lost some of the value of "Nintendo" by straying from the core experience they previously had.



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NintendoPie on 05 June 2013

It's wrong to just leave this to "Living Room" Consoles. That (7th gen) was the DS' world, we were just living in it.



Osc89 on 05 June 2013
RolStoppable said:
Osc89 said:

I wasn't blaming the PS2. I was saying there can't be a direct comparison of the launch of the PS3 with the launch of the Wii U when you are talking about the brand power. This is because the PlayStation brand covers 2 consoles at once, so the brand can be strong by selling PS2s on top of not many PS3s.

I do see the Wii U being unable to retain any gains made by the Wii, and that is because the Wii sold to people who attach no weight to "Nintendo" or "Wii" as brands, so they have gained no brand power. They lost some of the value of "Nintendo" by straying from the core experience they previously had.

Okay, let's see if I got this right.

1) You use the GameCube as base value for Nintendo's brand strength.
2) The Wii didn't add to Nintendo's brand strength, because its customers attach no weight to "Nintendo" or "Wii" as brands.
3) The Wii actually made Nintendo lose brand strength, because many GameCube fans felt betrayed by Nintendo's change of direction.

What this means is that Nintendo didn't really win with the Wii. You also want to go on record that the Wii U will sell fewer units in its lifetime than the GameCube. Is that correct?


Woah not so fast. The Wii won the generation, but like I said originally I think it is debatable whether this will be seen as a "winning strategy" long tem for Nintendo. I don't know if the Wii U will sell less than the GameCube lifetime but so far it is doing worse. As for your points:

1) I have been, because it sold the worst therefore is my best guess for loyal Nintendo fans.

2) Yes, this is what I assume (minus the GameCube owners). I feel the focus of the Wii was a more casual owner who wouldn't care who made it, and just got it for the motion control.

3) Yes, because I am one of them.



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Osc89 on 06 June 2013
RolStoppable said:
Osc89 said:

Woah not so fast. The Wii won the generation, but like I said originally I think it is debatable whether this will be seen as a "winning strategy" long tem for Nintendo. I don't know if the Wii U will sell less than the GameCube lifetime but so far it is doing worse. As for your points:

1) I have been, because it sold the worst therefore is my best guess for loyal Nintendo fans.

2) Yes, this is what I assume (minus the GameCube owners). I feel the focus of the Wii was a more casual owner who wouldn't care who made it, and just got it for the motion control.

3) Yes, because I am one of them.

I see, you are one of those who mistakingly believe that the Wii U is a continuation of the Wii strategy. Whether or not the Wii strategy works in the long term, we cannot prove one way or the other until Nintendo uses it again for a future home console. What we do know is that not using the Wii strategy leads to disappointing results for Nintendo.


How is the Wii U not a continuation? It is a lot weaker than the competition, and the main selling point is a controller gimmick. Sounds like the Wii to me. I personally like it more than the Wii as it feels like they are catching up again with hardware quality and decent online capability, but you can feel they were aiming for the same crowd.



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