My comment was on your side... not his... ¬_¬

i too am skeptical of what kind of computations they could make use of.
Sure, maybe something like later turns in civ (everyone knows how poorly that game runs near the end) and maybe some city builders, and...well I don't really knwo what else would be really effectual.

The Eurogamer article was posted in a thread yesterday, but it bears repeating since it's the best article on the topic to date, and the prior thread disappeared rather quickly. I'll sorta repeat what I said too. The Eurogamer article takes Microsoft to task on their blustery, marketing hoo-blah regarding cloud computing.

Dude. I was ripping THE SHIT out of the PS3 in 2007 and 2008 (not on here though). But honestly, there's nothing to complain about for me right now. Maybe you can tell me what sucks about the PS4 in a thread all of your own and I'd be happy to come and have a look. My *only* small gripe with Sony is that the majority of their IP's don't really appeal to me (Killzone, inFamous, GT). But they cast such a wide net that I've been kept happy.

I honestly can't get more objective than that. I don't know what you want me to say. I'm not amped for the Xbone because the PS4 appeals more to me. 

ON TOPIC:

yes, it remains to be seen if it will be beneficial (cloud computing). Such an ambitious thing if they do manage. I'll be the first to eat my hat if MS manage to boost the Xbone's abilities by this arrangement. Also, just cause people are shitting over everything MS related doesn't make them trolls. Maybe that's just their way of sharing their opinion.

Cloud computing looks like it will play a very massive role in the future of all content services. That is why I don't see it being a big exclusive advantage to MS. I also don't think that the way they describe it is going to be the best implementation of it. 

The funniest thing about the cloud computing MS is touting is it has nothing to do with the XBO and its hardware. Cloud computing is something that is becoming viable thanks to internet bandwidth increasing. It is a solution that can be used with any internet connected device for running applications built for more capable hardware. 

The coolest thing cloud computing brings is that once it is viable to a large enough market a company like blizzard can develop a new MMO and have zero concern for the end users hardware. They can build the game to as much server power as they want, and as long as you have an X amount of minimum bandwidth you can stream the video to your display, and upload your inputs to control the action. Then the game can be played from any internet connected device, only needing the required controller. This is something I could see happing for COD multiplayer in the near future. Again that would be across all devices (TV's, Phone's, Tablets, ect.) any device with a net conection and a display.  Essentially, big enough publishers could by pass hardware manufactures completly once cloud computing reaches maturity.

So will cloud processing mean anything to the Xbone? I don't see it adding anything that won't be matched by every other competitor. In fact, I can envision a future were cloud essentially renders all external hardware useless, leaving the display, and the input device as the only neccesary hardware.

I don't know more than anyone else on this forum, yes I'm not sure what to think of this but I'm also curious about it. You guys can't explain how this works either, then how about we wait for them to explain at E3 (hoping they will)... this is a reason a lot of people will not bother trying to explain something they don't know themselves...

I would love to see it in action.

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2013/05/24/microsoft-will-back-xbox-one-300000-servers/

"Booty says cloud assets will be used on “latency-insensitive computation” within games. “There are some things in a video game world that don’t necessarily need to be updated every frame or don’t change that much in reaction to what’s going on,” said Booty. “One example of that might be lighting,” he continued. “Let’s say you’re looking at a forest scene and you need to calculate the light coming through the trees, or you’re going through a battlefield and have very dense volumetric fog that’s hugging the terrain. Those things often involve some complicated up-front calculations when you enter that world, but they don’t necessarily have to be updated every frame. Those are perfect candidates for the console to offload that to the cloud—the cloud can do the heavy lifting, because you’ve got the ability to throw multiple devices at the problem in the cloud.” This has implications for how games for the new platform are designed."

It's a over simplification of a long post but for some users they have let skepticism turn into a irrational hate, I didn't call you a hater though.  I myself have from the first announcement been skeptical about how much performance they will get from cloud computing, you can check my post history which does backup my claim.  I have many doubts about the XBO but most of those doubts are based on a lack of facts and rumour from sites desperate for hits.  I fully expect E3 to resolve many doubts once and for all.  Cloud computing will produce some benefits, the only question is how much, like Dr.Grass I believe the 4x improvement claim to be a embelishment of the truth but if it gives only a 50% improvement then that would be unheard of in console terms and a huge innovation not deserving of so much derision. 

@Dr.Grass - I have no problem if people share their opinion according to the rules but when you have posters derailing positive threads with deliberately negative off topic posts then a line is crossed.  This is happening so often that even the "non bashing" threads become tiresome to read at times.  I have no problem with threads like this, I knew what the thread would be like before I entered so if I thought it would be annoying I could of not entered the thread.  Anyway, I've said my thoughts on where I stand on the issue at the present time, hopefully you'll get some of the other Xbox fans share their opinion.

Yeah I know!

I thought after sending that that it might not be so clear.

Hmmm.I've been to a few sites with MS fans but the fans on this site,are as blind as it gets.Don't care how much shit MS spits in their face,it's welcomed with a open mouth.

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I think it(The Cloud)making Xbone 4 times as powerful is pure bullshit IMO.If it can be done,who knows,what happens if your internet goes down,what happens when I make a game to take "advantage" of the cloud and only a few of the fan base has a stable connection,what then.

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