walsufnir said:
DucksUnlimited said:
walsufnir said:
DucksUnlimited said:
At least twice? How would they get more than twice?
My link says that they don't know what the end result for the framerate will be but they're aiming for 60fps. How does that prove your point that it will be running at 30fps? And why would I ask Ethomaz when nobody's even talking about how the games play? That has literally nothing to do with this thread.
This is a comparison between the visuals of 2 games on hardware that is roughly 10x as powerful as their predecessors. Saying that the visuals of a game coming out this year on brand new hardware should instead be compared to the visuals of a game on hardware from 2005 makes zero sense. IF Driveclub runs at 30fps, Evolution would have about 10 times as much potential for performance as Playground Games had to work with. Whereas they'd only have a little more than twice the potential for performance that Turn 10 has with Forza 5.
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Because cutting it down to 30fps is... no, this is wrong to explain it to people like you. To maintain solid 60fps you just don't reduce the poly-amount by half you also write code way more... carefully. You only have half the ressources but additionally you have code that even more is written so that your goal can be achieved, that's why I say *at least*.
But we now have two consoles which are going to be released and it happens that on both consoles a racer releases, that's why we have a thread like this. The problem is by now that spec-wise PS4 should be ahead of Xbone by a good amount but Driveclub doesn't show us it is. Even worse it only renders at 30fps while the other one for the (spec-wise) inferior product renders at 60fps which is by now a fact.
Of course you can still keep on repeating posting the same old link what the devs are aiming for but there is almost no way to double the framerate now in this stage of development so in the end we will have two racers while one looks better than the other and of course people on the internet will compare them. If this results in a "loss" to PS4 then be it. This doesn't make the console or the game worse.
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So it's only twice. The only way to make it more than twice would be to additionally write the code more carefully. Glad you agree with me.
Bolded 1: Too early to tell whether or not that's the case.
Bolded 2: Glad you know better than the devs. Also, that's the first time I've said anything about that link, so I'm not sure what you mean about repeating. And it's not old. 0/3
Bolded 3: Completely off topic. Has nothing to do with anything. Why is it you keep doing that? You're needlessly trying to turn a discussion about graphics into a console war.
You didn't respond to what I said about comparing DC to FH. Do you acknowledge that the comparison made no sense or do you have a rebuttal?
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First: It is not just twice.
to bolded 1: read what I write - "by now". I used it intentionally.
to bolded 2: I don't know better than them but it is very unlikely. Willing to bet? :) It is nothing new that the devs said they were aiming for 60fps.
to bolded 3: Off-topic? In a comparison-thread? Oh, VGC, how I missed you the last 2 weeks :D
But sorry, what exactly did you say of importance about DC and FH again?
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You just said yourself that it was.
Bolded 1 response: Sure.
Bolded 2 response: Why would I want to bet anything when my entire point has been that we don't know and that specualting is pretty pointless at the moment?
Bolded 3 response: Yes, a graphics comparison thread. Not a console line-up comparison thread.
I have confidence that you're capable of answering that last question yourself.
