I like Shin'en. They brought me F-ZERO WX Prologue.

No, he's saying Wii U is more powerful than the Xbox 360.

Shin'en already confirmed that their 80MB Wii U launch title Nano Assault Neo did things PS3 and 360 can't graphically, and that their next game, (most likely FAST Racing League 2) will continue to push the graphical envelope. 

Shin'en have produced some of the most advanced games on just about every system they've worked on, it will be interesting to see what they can do on Wii U.

Well, since their last FAST game looked better than most Wii games, their next racing game should stand out as well. Who know, they could have been given their chance to make the next F-Zero game. :) 

Yeah FAST and Jett Rocket look better than 99% of games on the Wii, and both fit into 40MB. A Wii U sequel with HD, programmable shaders, 1GB of RAM, and a larger file size limit should look amazing, if Nano Assault Neo is anything to go by. (And Neo as only their first time working with the hardware, they'll get better with experience)

I doubt it's F Zero though, simply because Shin'en is a 5 man team, they don't have the manpower for a big game.

What I always found amusing is so far nobody actually knows what the Wii U specs are. So far its just been. The games are also on PS3/360 and current games don't show a huge advantange over PS3/360 games. Now we see PS3/PS4 games coming out but of course that same logic as to why Wii U is inferior isnt being applied to PS4.
The last break down I saw for Wii U they didnt even know what half the areas of the chip were designed to do.
Wii Us CPU/GPU combo is out of date. PS4s CPU/GPU combo is the first of its kind.
Also notice how if PS4 doesnt have it, its not needed for gaming in any way. Edram? Yeah completely pointless.

Can we reserve judgement on the Wii U´s graphical capabilitys untill we get a game that is built from the ground up (not an upscaled Wii game like Pikmin 3) ? Retro´s game or EAD Tokyo´s game should be a good indication what we should get in the future !

You mean... Like seeing something Shin'en have done for the Wii U that actually support their claims?

You're really not in the position to talk about faith leaping.

This.

Useless statements with zero substance to them only breeds nonsensical conversations.

bleh.

1) Silcon size is important. It tells allows you to get an estimate for the power of the chip, and then what other features it will have eg. bandwith, inbuilt AA features, resolution support etc. Resolution is a deal breaker. Anyone running a gaming PC will tell you this from experience. It also means less power goes into AA and more cna be placed on having prettier textures, shadows, more obejects and so on.

2) PS4 can run it....hence why it ran the more demanding U4 engine demo. No idea about the xbone, and the wiiU certainly can not.  As for the anology, that would be bandwidth. More traffic is not a problem is you have more lanes, something the PS4 has a brutal amount of.

Ok, well a few things with that demo. First off, what is it running on? Then you have the issue of falling between 24-30fps for realtively small scences, and then, most importantly, he never mentiones the WiiU but specifically mentions the ps4 and xbone for dx11 features, but mentions how they can turn them off for current consoles. I think it will be a case of dx11 for ps4, pc, xbone, and dx9 for the wiiu.

I can't wait for Digital Foundry face off when Watchdogs is released, it's gonna be a field day of fun ;)

Considering Watchdogs is a multiplatform game it will not be 100% optimized for any console but we will be able to still see a graphical difference between PS3/360/WiiU versus XboxOne/PC/PS4.

I think once a couple of games come out showing how much more capable the Xboxone/PS4 are in comparison to the WiiU, I know for a fact that allot of Nintendo fans who are trying to defend the WiiU's graphics capability will eventually revert to their "Gameplay over Graphics" mantra.

Now I have no issue with this mantra as most people who state this understand the hardware limitation of a Nintendo console but who simply can't miss a Nintendo first part franchise, this to me is fair and understandable. What I don't understand is this incessant need to 'try' and put the WiiU on the same hardware level as the Xboxone/PS4, in spite of the facts that are known. I've read some Nintendo fans stating that it has a GPU with a modern architecture with 'dx11' feature set just like the xboxone/PS4 therefore reducing the gap, but that's like saying that because I have a Toyota Carola with 4 wheels and an engine it's now comparable to a Formula one car....yeah sure they both have 4 wheels and an engine BUT their not even on the same league in terms of speed .

Like I've said before in other threads, the WiiU will be capable of some very beautiful 720p graphics just like the PS3 and 360, also Nintendo will do right by their franchises as they've always done, but one must realize that the hardware Nintendo choose is simply not on the same level as the hardware Microsoft and Sony choose, and honestly that is ok.

As foe Shin’en comments, well duh it's a next generation box, it's an 8th generation console, the successor to the Wii a 7th generation box, however, in terms of hardware capabilities Nintendo is a generation behind it's competitors, but again that's OK, Nintendo is providing something different with it's tablet controller, if you disagree with Nintendo's direction then their are 4 other options to game on such as table/phone, PC, Xboxone, PS4.