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Forums - Nintendo - Why do you think the Wii U will fail, when the 3DS came out of a similar horrible slump and even the Vita has stuck in the fight?

Give the Wii U a price drop, a steady stream of AAA games, and oh, make it powerful enough so that it doesn't look like it's a generation behind in the visuals department, and you'll have a recipe for success with the Wii U.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

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VGhippy said:
kupomogli said:

The Wii U isn't going to fail, but the Wii U is doing very bad. When the 3DS came out, it was selling worse than the two HD consoles, but it sold no less than 64,000 a month. The Wii U has sold below 40,000 multiple months in a row. That's the difference. 60,000 one month is fairly good considering that's as low as it got. 24,000 in one month is very bad


You mean weeks right? o_O

Yeah I meant weeks.  I don't know why I said months.  If the Wii U sold 40,000 multiple months, how the hell did it get 3.5 million :P.  I'm going to edit my post.  Thanks for letting me know.



I find this whole thread funny, considering it was made by one of the BIGGEST 3DS doomers on this site. Didnt Spurg sell his 3ds? Charming. 3DS never did as bad as Wii U is now and no said that 3ds was never gonna recover. Dont know where he got that from. No one is saying that Wii U wont recover now, there just saying its doing poorly because it is.



Otakumegane said:
The 3DS is up against the Vita. Tablets too, but pretty much has a monopoly right now on the dedicated handheld market.

The WiiU is up against 2 years of neglect of the Wii, the Xbone in america-the strongest console market, the PS4 and the PC.
And it has no games, the 3rd parties aren't supporting it because of the DRM issue.

The WiiU is a good concept with a horrible execution so far. The 3DS is a decent concept with everyone else floundering so it was like "huh I guess I'm ok after all"

I say wait till the games come out 1st. Then we can discuss stuff. But I think Nintendo made the WiiU solely to ride out the upcoming gen because they believe that the Western industry is going to crash to an extent.

Xbone isn't helping either.

The 3DS is up against Vita AND Smartphones/Tablets and sales are good now. And the 3DS XL price is almost as high as the price of the 3DS at launch. The price drop wasn't neccessary, games sell gaming systems.

Nintendo was shocked by the first reactions to the slow OS and they made a horrible mistake as they decided to hold Wii U games and advertising back, because they want to market the Wii U not until the OS runs faster. But after the Nintendo games are released the Wii U will have much higher sales. 

It is easy to port PS4/Xbox One games to Wii U and not many publisher want to miss this money when Wii U sales get higher. And after the sales spike up, some other things will happen "magically" like EA suddenly ports frostbite3 engine to the Wii U. 

No third party support? True to the Wii but the Wii U has a far better support. Look at the third party games for the rest of the year: Rayman Legends, Assassins Creed 4, Batman Arkham Origins, Deus Ex, Sniper Elite V2, Splinter Cell Blacklist, Watch Dogs, Call of Duty and many more. And Nintendo obviously is working with some thirds on exclusive games like Shin Megami Tensai/Fire Emblem, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, Sonic Lost Worlds and many more. On top of that Mario, Zelda, Metroid and new games from Monolith and Retro and many already announced indie titles.



There is a very Dreamcast-like feel to Wii U at the minute, so you can kind of understand some of the negativity, however it is getting a little over the top - perhaps even hysterical.

I really think Nintendo need to act to stop some sort of self fulfilling prophecy. The more people harp on that Wii U is a failure the more people will skip the console in favour of other systems. This then starts a cycle where the belief of Wii U's failure (despite not being the case) leads to the system failing. Think about it, a console is an investment that enables you to play games, why spend all that money on something that you believe will fail? You end up with a system that is essentially useless as no new software is released.

However providing they act soon I really think they can turn things around. They have a number of huge franchises and a decent console so really there is no reason for Wii U to fail. They just need to change public perception and raise awareness.

I really think they need to play on the fact you can switch to the pad whilst playing, it's such a useful feature I dont know how I've been without it for so long!!



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oniyide said:
I find this whole thread funny, considering it was made by one of the BIGGEST 3DS doomers on this site. Didnt Spurg sell his 3ds? Charming. 3DS never did as bad as Wii U is now and no said that 3ds was never gonna recover. Dont know where he got that from. No one is saying that Wii U wont recover now, there just saying its doing poorly because it is.

Some are, here's an example:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5370962



It's not unprecedented for Nintendo consoles to flop. N64 and GameCube are two examples.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

I don't think the Wii U will fail. Only trolls think that.

I do think it will be much harder to have Wii-like sales for Wii U, but I think that's the case for all the next gen consoles, honestly. Wii U will be just fine as soon as some bigger games come out. That has always been the case.



I still think Wii U will start doing better by the end of the year, but the two systems are hard to compare. Nintendo handhelds have been selling well with no exception, from the original Gameboy to the DS. Way better than the respective home consoles too. It seems that there is simply a constant demand for Nintendo handhelds, and every 5 years people are willing to buy a new one.



Jumpin said:
It's not unprecedented for Nintendo consoles to flop. N64 and GameCube are two examples.


I'm not sure you realize this, but neither console "flopped". Both had some of the best selling games of the generation, and both made Nintendo money. Just because the Playstation brand took over the industry during those gens, with the PS2 especially because it was a reasonalby cheap DVD player at the time, doesn't imply that those consoles "flopped" with over 20 million units sold each (N64 closer to 30). By those standards, the original Xbox also "flopped", but it didn't.

 

Also, I fail to see how people can claim Wii U has a "very Dreamcast feel to it" right now, when the Dreamcast did VERY well right out of the gate, it's early sales were pheonimal.......and then it sharply dropped and never recovered, forcing Sega to finally exit the console market. Considering that the Wii U has and WILL have the exact opposite phenominon happen to it (slow start, will start to rise exponentially once big games come out), and considering the DC sold 10 million LIFETIME..........how is that equatable?