InFamous also had a very strong chance of building appeal in a new gen where they have a fresh start. Sony bought Sucker Punch for a reason, they believe in this IP and they want to see it throught and many other titles with them. Some companies just work better with Sony than outside of them ::Cough::Insomniac::Clears throat::. Knack has a definite audience whom are the Jak N Daxter, Rachet and Clank crowd, but they have a chance to expand that even further next gen. The guy who made it is considered the Miyamoto of Sony. I think he's also responsible for Crash Bandicoot if I am not mistaken. I think more details need to be shown abot Knack. I believe E3 will fill in the gaps. Killzone...well I just love its gritty, realistic style so thats the perfect launch game to prep me for whats to come on the PS4.

Eh we've gotten some pretty deep discussion in the thread rolling about that.

pretty much 90% of the time I talk about this stuff I'm referring to market trends and sales not individual stuff. Something that gets lost on a lot of people here. I'm more of an old school style member here like guys like mrstickball were back in the day. That's why I post here.

I agree and both Killzone and Infamous were good choices for the reveal.

I'm just telling you that aside from that edit in your OP, it is assumed by default that you're talking about opinions just like everyone else. You used words like "mind blowing showcase" and "incredible", which make people naturally think about their own subjective opinions rather than their affect on the market. Also, people should not have to read the entire thread to get the point of the thread - that's what the OP is for.

Anyway, I have only seen a few posters running around saying the PS4 will dominate the Xbox in sales. Most people are talking about what they feel of the consoles.

- Make sure you read the thread. This is from a business, marketing, and sales standpoint. Not which console you like more -

Honest question. I simply don't understand why people are acting like the PS4 was this incredible mind blowing showcase.

At the PS4 conference they showed

Knack - Which looks like it could be a decent little platformer

Killzone - Looked great but was expected and nothing revolutionary

Infamous Second Son -same as Killzone

Drive Club - could be a good racer. Not much was shown

Diablo - Which will be multi platform

Destiny - multiplat

Deep Down - likely multiplat

Square Enix - Lol

And good specs.

MS showed a new core IP from Remedy, an improved Kinect, the actual console, a new great controller, a sequel to the biggest gaming franchise in the world with exclusive content, a highlight real of the biggest sports games on a new engine with exclusive content, Forza 5 sequel to the highest average Meta racer ever, 15 exclusives in the first year, NFL partnership, Halo TV show, cool media features.

To me its clear MS focused on mass market and did a better job selling to them than Sony did. That being said Im NOT saying they had a better conference for gamers. In fact Sonys conference was probably better from a "gamers" perspective

Still if you read the comments you would think Sony showed ultra megaton after megaton. Which frankly didnt happen. It looks like a solid system for gamers but honestly wasnt all that impressive either.

E3 should be much better for MS and Sony.