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every generations should have three 3D Mario games..I really hope Mario U is a Galaxy game I dont see how any other mario future title can be better overral



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Mensrea said:
They are going to have to pull a Galaxy. nothing held back, push the system to it's limits and utilize it to it's fullest potential. It's going to have to be something completely new, and out of left field. I'm excited, there is a lot of pressure. Galaxy 1 and 2 were IMO the best 3D plats of all time, going to be hard to follow that up.


Well add a cool hub world with alot of exploration like in Mario 64   and make more worlds like in Sunshine or 64  you know real places where you can chill leave Mario to  take a nap  and  listen to his  Mmmmm Ravioli, Mmmmm Spaghetti,  Mmmmm Mama Mia  without worrying about  asteroids killing him etc.


I am tired of all those little floating places  since Jumping is actually the least favorite part for me  in a Jump n Run game.   Make it more  run/explore etc  and less Jump.  I don't like small levels or little floating areas I want cool places  like the Bee levels in Mario Galaxy or well to some extend the Beach.

Btw my favourite part in Mario 3D Land was the garden surrounding the Toad house  since that was like the only  peaceful place. LOL



at first it should not be like mario sunshine
2)they need to keep up the quality of mario galaxy-main problem here:less developing time but far more ressources/staff is needed as HD needs lots of more manpower than SD
3)some attractive use for the controller.As long sd the useadds nothing special and attractive casual gamers won't be interessted and won't buy a wii u just for one game.
Some core gamers may do the same:rent game and console for 5 days and give it back after finishing the game
4)Galaxy2 isn't that old,3ds mario is pretty new,maybe a new 3d mario could cause the same fatigue problem mario 2d has on wii u
and i think too many games are using the name mario and he is nothing special anymore



curl-6 said:
Mensrea said:
They are going to have to pull a Galaxy. nothing held back, push the system to it's limits and utilize it to it's fullest potential. It's going to have to be something completely new, and out of left field. I'm excited, there is a lot of pressure. Galaxy 1 and 2 were IMO the best 3D plats of all time, going to be hard to follow that up.

If they manage to make a game that utilises the hardware as fully as Galaxy and is equally as well crafted and creative, then the Wii U will rise like a phoenix.

However, being the pessimist I am, I'm not confident; Nintendo don't have the experience with the hardware that they did when creating Galaxy, and their recent creative decisions have shown none of the brilliance they demonstrated back in Galaxy's day.


I think we might be in for a sunshine situation honestly.  3D land was not my favorite game, and it was not nearly as good as the galaxy games IMO,  so I'm worried what is going to happen to this game.

It really needs to be amazing, but like I said, it will be pretty hard to make a game as good as the galaxy games.




This game NEEDS to be good. Actaually, not good, AMAZING. It needs to be groundbreaking and visually stunning. It needs to say this is why you buy a Wii U, it's what a Wii U that other systems... Wii, 360, PS3, even PS4 or Xi... can't. It needs a groundbreaking theme, next-gen visuals and classic Nintendo gameplay. I needs to be a game that creates buzz.

NSMBU couldn't move (many) systems because it was basically the same experience you can already get on Wii. It's a game people love, but not many people will buy a system for it, even for the HD. Visually, it would be considered average on 360 or PS4.

Wii U needs a stunning 3D Mario, flanked by titles like Wind Waker, X, MarioKart and others, as well as 3rd party games like Watch_Dogs, COD: Ghosts and others, to really present a compelling reason for consumers to spend $350 on the machine. If they can do that, other casual titles could take off as well as young families look at it as an option for having Mario, COD, Wii Fit, Netflix and other entertainment options in one place at a good price.

But Mario U needs to be good. If it bombs or fails to impress the way NSMBU did, the rest of the big push will fall flat. You need that title that makes people feel the machine is groundbreaking and fresh. If Mario U is Mario Sunshine2, Wii U is at least moderately doomed to be enjoyed only by the true Nintendo faithful.



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TheLastStarFighter said:
This game NEEDS to be good. Actaually, not good, AMAZING. It needs to be groundbreaking and visually stunning. It needs to say this is why you buy a Wii U, it's what a Wii U that other systems... Wii, 360, PS3, even PS4 or Xi... can't. It needs a groundbreaking theme, next-gen visuals and classic Nintendo gameplay. I needs to be a game that creates buzz.

NSMBU couldn't move (many) systems because it was basically the same experience you can already get on Wii. It's a game people love, but not many people will buy a system for it, even for the HD. Visually, it would be considered average on 360 or PS4.

Wii U needs a stunning 3D Mario, flanked by titles like Wind Waker, X, MarioKart and others, as well as 3rd party games like Watch_Dogs, COD: Ghosts and others, to really present a compelling reason for consumers to spend $350 on the machine. If they can do that, other casual titles could take off as well as young families look at it as an option for having Mario, COD, Wii Fit, Netflix and other entertainment options in one place at a good price.

But Mario U needs to be good. If it bombs or fails to impress the way NSMBU did, the rest of the big push will fall flat. You need that title that makes people feel the machine is groundbreaking and fresh. If Mario U is Mario Sunshine2, Wii U is at least moderately doomed to be enjoyed only by the true Nintendo faithful.


Nothing will be more groundbreaking than Mario 64, a lot of people considered that the best video game ever made when it came out.

The N64 still barely sneaked past 30 million with Mario 64.

People need to really give Wii Sports its due. It changed the game for Nintendo and that's where they were able to bring in so many more consumers.

We already know what the game console that's centered around 4-5 "core Nintendo" big IP per year + weak third party support gets you -- 20-30 million-ish in sales.



TheLastStarFighter said:
This game NEEDS to be good. Actaually, not good, AMAZING. It needs to be groundbreaking and visually stunning. It needs to say this is why you buy a Wii U, it's what a Wii U that other systems... Wii, 360, PS3, even PS4 or Xi... can't. It needs a groundbreaking theme, next-gen visuals and classic Nintendo gameplay. I needs to be a game that creates buzz.

NSMBU couldn't move (many) systems because it was basically the same experience you can already get on Wii. It's a game people love, but not many people will buy a system for it, even for the HD. Visually, it would be considered average on 360 or PS4.

Wii U needs a stunning 3D Mario, flanked by titles like Wind Waker, X, MarioKart and others, as well as 3rd party games like Watch_Dogs, COD: Ghosts and others, to really present a compelling reason for consumers to spend $350 on the machine. If they can do that, other casual titles could take off as well as young families look at it as an option for having Mario, COD, Wii Fit, Netflix and other entertainment options in one place at a good price.

But Mario U needs to be good. If it bombs or fails to impress the way NSMBU did, the rest of the big push will fall flat. You need that title that makes people feel the machine is groundbreaking and fresh. If Mario U is Mario Sunshine2, Wii U is at least moderately doomed to be enjoyed only by the true Nintendo faithful.

Agreed.

If they fuck this game up, like they did with Sunshine, it will be a crippling blow to Wii U. It needs to be creative, it needs to look amazing, and it needs to do things you can't do on other systems.



Soundwave said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
This game NEEDS to be good. Actaually, not good, AMAZING. It needs to be groundbreaking and visually stunning. It needs to say this is why you buy a Wii U, it's what a Wii U that other systems... Wii, 360, PS3, even PS4 or Xi... can't. It needs a groundbreaking theme, next-gen visuals and classic Nintendo gameplay. I needs to be a game that creates buzz.

NSMBU couldn't move (many) systems because it was basically the same experience you can already get on Wii. It's a game people love, but not many people will buy a system for it, even for the HD. Visually, it would be considered average on 360 or PS4.

Wii U needs a stunning 3D Mario, flanked by titles like Wind Waker, X, MarioKart and others, as well as 3rd party games like Watch_Dogs, COD: Ghosts and others, to really present a compelling reason for consumers to spend $350 on the machine. If they can do that, other casual titles could take off as well as young families look at it as an option for having Mario, COD, Wii Fit, Netflix and other entertainment options in one place at a good price.

But Mario U needs to be good. If it bombs or fails to impress the way NSMBU did, the rest of the big push will fall flat. You need that title that makes people feel the machine is groundbreaking and fresh. If Mario U is Mario Sunshine2, Wii U is at least moderately doomed to be enjoyed only by the true Nintendo faithful.


Nothing will be more groundbreaking than Mario 64, a lot of people considered that the best video game ever made when it came out.

The N64 still barely sneaked past 30 million with Mario 64.

People need to really give Wii Sports its due. It changed the game for Nintendo and that's where they were able to bring in so many more consumers.

We already know what the game console that's centered around 4-5 "core Nintendo" big IP per year + weak third party support gets you -- 20-30 million-ish in sales.

It is not accurate to look at an old system and say this is what a future system will do based on certain similar factors.  No two systems are alike, no two circumstances are alike.  We do not know what a groundbreaking Mario title can do under the current circumstances.  As much as we can look at Mario 64, we can arguably say that Super Mario Bros. was more groundbreaking and more impressive for its time.  That title was a large part of a 85% market share. Every scenario is different.

The scenario for Wii U is very different than N64.  Playstation launched two years earlier.  It was cheaper.  It used the (arguably) superior and much cooler CD format.  It had a slew of former Nintendo 3rd party franchises that became PS1 exclusives.  Wii U is the exact opposite of N64, going with a cheaper approach, launching first, promoting mainstream media like Netflix and with a mainstream touch interface.

Given that many upcoming 3rd party titles like Watch_Dogs, CoD: Ghosts, AC4 and others could be potentially available on every system, consumers will look for other factors to differentiate which hardware is best for them.  Since the vast majority of people have little interest/understanding of computer specs beyond words like "HD", there is room for Nintendo to lure customers if they can present a piece of software that wows customers.  Mario U must do this.  Super Mario Bros. did it, Super Mario 64 did it, Super Mario Galaxy did it.  In writing that I just noticed that every second Nintendo console had a "derivative" Mario game, which may not be good for Wii U, lol.  But I do think if Mario U can create Mario Galaxy type buzz, Wii U can be a contender.

I don't think anyone questions the value of Wii Sports and the Wii series in general, as well at the innovation of the Wii.  I just think that Nintendo has tremendous brand value beyond the big hit that was the Wii, as is shown by the success of early systems like NES and SNES, as well as the recent and current massive success of its handhelds and associated software.  There are millions that have grown up with Nintendo products and continue to grow up with these products thanks to Wii, DS and now 3DS.  They have a 50% share of the hardware market even now.  If Nintendo presents a compelling package with Wii U, I think there will be strong consumer interest, and things don't automatically reset to pre-Wii levels.



curl-6 said:
TheLastStarFighter said:
This game NEEDS to be good. Actaually, not good, AMAZING. It needs to be groundbreaking and visually stunning. It needs to say this is why you buy a Wii U, it's what a Wii U that other systems... Wii, 360, PS3, even PS4 or Xi... can't. It needs a groundbreaking theme, next-gen visuals and classic Nintendo gameplay. I needs to be a game that creates buzz.

NSMBU couldn't move (many) systems because it was basically the same experience you can already get on Wii. It's a game people love, but not many people will buy a system for it, even for the HD. Visually, it would be considered average on 360 or PS4.

Wii U needs a stunning 3D Mario, flanked by titles like Wind Waker, X, MarioKart and others, as well as 3rd party games like Watch_Dogs, COD: Ghosts and others, to really present a compelling reason for consumers to spend $350 on the machine. If they can do that, other casual titles could take off as well as young families look at it as an option for having Mario, COD, Wii Fit, Netflix and other entertainment options in one place at a good price.

But Mario U needs to be good. If it bombs or fails to impress the way NSMBU did, the rest of the big push will fall flat. You need that title that makes people feel the machine is groundbreaking and fresh. If Mario U is Mario Sunshine2, Wii U is at least moderately doomed to be enjoyed only by the true Nintendo faithful.

Agreed.

If they fuck this game up, like they did with Sunshine, it will be a crippling blow to Wii U. It needs to be creative, it needs to look amazing, and it needs to do things you can't do on other systems.

I can't wait to see the game.  I think it's going to do something bizzarre and creative.  Particularily with multiplayer.  It's my most anticipated game.  If it's a dud, I will cry, lol.



Well if there biggest ip Super Mario Bros could not safe the Wii U how can a 3d mario do that. I will not sound to pesimistic but mario alone will not safe the wii u if we take Game Cube and N64 as an example.