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I would like to know what happened between EA and Nintendo. Obviously EA's games have sold incredibly poorly on the console (an unprecedented level of poor actually), but this is somewhat expected at the start of a consoles life cycle. The initial titles are more about developing a userbase for your franchises and if you make a profit then great.

Whilst it's quite possible (likely even) that EA's decision not to release any new games is purely down to a lack of revenue, there does appear to have been a rapid souring behind the scenes. Hopefully we get the full details of the breakdown; I doubt Nintendo is as blameless as some would believe.



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pezus said:
Seriously, all this EA hate and trolling gets a free pass but when someone decides to chip in on the situation he gets banned because he is negative towards Nintendo?

I don't think his wording helped matters. Making generalisations such as "Nintendo fans on these forums..." isn't going to help matters, especially when refering to a fanbase from one of the big 3.

Still, the EA hate is getting unreasonably ridiculous and illogical.



Scoobes said:
pezus said:
Seriously, all this EA hate and trolling gets a free pass but when someone decides to chip in on the situation he gets banned because he is negative towards Nintendo?

I don't think his wording helped matters. Making generalisations such as "Nintendo fans on these forums..." isn't going to help matters, especially when refering to a fanbase from one of the big 3.

Still, the EA hate is getting unreasonably ridiculous and illogical.

EA hate is almost always unreasonably ridiculous and illogical.



Mazty said:
superchunk said:


Because a multi billion dollar corporation is about losing money and "sticking it to Nintendo". Obviously.

Annnnnnd back to reality in 3.....2.....1......

With EA folk on Twitter ... http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160213

Going crazy with personal attacks to Nintendo and so on... can it get any clearer how wrong you are?



pezus said:
Zero999 said:
Soundwave said:

Lets be honest Madden 25 and FIFA 14 and Need For Speed: Whatever, would've bombed on the Wii U anyway. Even things like Black Ops 2 and Assassin's Creed 3 are having a rough go of it and sports sims have never really be something associated with Nintendo.

no matter what you wish for, those games sold pretty well considering the install base and must have made profits. now picture the wii u with a bigger install base and those kind of games will sell hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of copys.

Maybe then EA will want to make something for WiiU. That is, however, irrelevant now because their games sold next to nothing on WiiU and WiiU's userbase is barely expanding 

I think EA titles sales on Wii U were directly proporcional to EA's effort towards them.



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RolStoppable said:
pezus said:
Seriously, all this EA hate and trolling gets a free pass but when someone decides to chip in on the situation he gets banned because he is negative towards Nintendo?

Dodece got banned for his continuous attempts to stir up the pot. All he wanted is rile up Nintendo fans, so it didn't bother him to run contradictory points of view. At one point he says that Nintendo fans deserve what they get, because EA has seen next to no software sales on the Wii U. The next time he portrays the situation as some sort of death blow to the Wii U, because losing EA support is going to have a major impact on the future of the console. He has been doing this all week and some of his posts were quite spiteful, so his intentions were more than obvious to anyone who has read his posts. If anyone has any doubts, they are free to look up Dodece's recent posting history.

The EA hate and trolling gets a pass, because moderators don't treat third party publishers the same way as console manufacturers. Additionally, EA is a company that upsets fans of all gaming platforms on quite a regular basis, so we would see a lot of bans due to the many dismissive one-liners these threads usually cause. And if that happened, people would wonder why the moderators ban people for being angry at EA for their latest anti-consumer practices when that anger is usually justified as EA first screws over gamers and then pretends that they didn't screw over gamers, basically adding insult to injury.

Besides, would you take EA's side, if they decided to screw over a PlayStation platform or would you take the side of gamers? I think we both know that it would be the latter, if you had to make a pick. So don't call for moderations of other users just because they happen to be Nintendo fans. It won't do the forums any favor.

Rol's views reflect my decisionmaking on this in a nutshell.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Given how many occurences of game company's logic that doesn't necessarily involve sales and profitability as the main justification of certain decisions (or simply but, personal bias), what makes this case so hard to believe so that accusations of conspiracy fly out? Because business is always about sales and profitability, lol? This logic in many times defines EA and to lesser extend third parties in general. I knew for a fact EA has seized any publishing for Wii U back in March, likely worldwide, likely the decision was made even earlier, so these news don't surprise me at all. Nor any justification because of lackluster sales of EA titles could be made simply due to how unprecedented early in the Wii U lifecycle they've jumped off the platform entirely.



pezus said:
Otakumegane said:

And for those of ya'll wanting Nintendo to go 3rd party SHUT UP you know what'll happen? SEGA 2.0. No way in hell that's good

:O but Sega is great?

Sega's still a massive cast of shelll of their formerselves, destroyed creatively and financially by the 3rd party route.

Nintendo going 3rd party means nothing but Mario games for the rest of forever.  We ain't going to seeing stuff like Fire Emblem or anything like that.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie  Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)

superchunk said:
Mazty said:
superchunk said:


Because a multi billion dollar corporation is about losing money and "sticking it to Nintendo". Obviously.

Annnnnnd back to reality in 3.....2.....1......

With EA folk on Twitter ... http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160213

Going crazy with personal attacks to Nintendo and so on... can it get any clearer how wrong you are?


A software eng made a personal comment about the Wii U - is he not entitled to a personal opinion? His voice does not represent EA and you quite clearly don't understand how business works. 

 

Also: 

Yep, we've got plenty of problems, but WiiU isn't where that family/casual market is. It's on mobile/tablet now!

I've been saying that all along and clear EA agree. It's nothing personal but obviously a business decision. 


Mazty said:
superchunk said:
Mazty said:
superchunk said:


Because a multi billion dollar corporation is about losing money and "sticking it to Nintendo". Obviously.

Annnnnnd back to reality in 3.....2.....1......

With EA folk on Twitter ... http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=160213

Going crazy with personal attacks to Nintendo and so on... can it get any clearer how wrong you are?


A software eng made a personal comment about the Wii U - is he not entitled to a personal opinion? His voice does not represent EA and you quite clearly don't understand how business works. 

 

Also: 

Yep, we've got plenty of problems, but WiiU isn't where that family/casual market is. It's on mobile/tablet now!

 

I've been saying that all along and clear EA agree. It's nothing personal but obviously a business decision. 

 

Most companies have social-media policies in place. When an employee speaks then that can be taken as representative of a companies viewpoint and twitter comments are effectively PR. Even if it is his personal opinion, comments which could affect public perception of a company (which is quite clearly the case here) should be carefully controlled and vetted.

Unprofessional comments give a poor overall image of the company.