Farsala said:
Well Fire emblem echoes had about the same points 21 days from release. So FE: Three houses is much ahead. And Fire Emblem fates weren't on the chart 87 days from release. So again FE: Three houses is much ahead. |
Hmm, good comparisons. Echos was a spin-off of sorts, and did worse than the other 3DS titles, but you can't argue with the Fates comparison. Glad to see FE is doing okay then, it's one of my all-time favorites and I'd hate to see it go downhill in Japan.
kopstudent89 said:
Mario games tend to enter the chart late. I'm not worried, I think you'll see it gain a lot within 30 days of release, and it should do 400k+ FW. Fire Emblem was never going to be huge. It's actually doing alright showing up early. Yokai though is a surprise. I know the brand declined but my God has it been underwhelming. I do think it will pick and get past 150 points, but previous entries were doing 1000+ so quite a sharp decline. |
I hope you're right about Mario. I could have sworn the first one did surprisingly well for a Wii U game, and then the actual SMM online community was heavily overrepresented with Japanese players, so I got the impression it was really popular. I guess I'm just used to 1st party Switch heavy hitters ending in the 100+ point ballpark and this seems like a short amount of time to get those points.
Fire Emblem does fine though, almost always getting 500k+ lifetime, which isn't bad for Japan. But Farsala pointed out above that it's actually early for FE, so that was a bad example on my part. FE will probably be fine, maybe even really successful based on how it's doing compared to Fates.
I'm glad someone is willing to acknowledge just how astounding the drop has been. 600k FW sales, 1000+ points on COMG, the Pokemon comparisons were justified. It was never going to "kill" Pokemon or even match it, but it did do close to Pokemon like numbers at one point. The decline has been incredible to behold. I'm beginning to doubt it'll even get 100 points, though I'm sure with Switch's favorable ratios that'll still translate to 150k+ first week, but that's still a depressing drop and makes me concerned for the series' future in the west, and perhaps even its having any future at all.
You have to admit though that the charts are in a pretty terrible state to have such incredible titles sitting so low, beneath even a delayed game with an unannounced release date and only 3 dozen points between 2 SKUs. I maintain that COMG as a business looks to be having a rough spot.
HylianSwordsman said:
Hmm, good comparisons. Echos was a spin-off of sorts, and did worse than the other 3DS titles, but you can't argue with the Fates comparison. Glad to see FE is doing okay then, it's one of my all-time favorites and I'd hate to see it go downhill in Japan.
I hope you're right about Mario. I could have sworn the first one did surprisingly well for a Wii U game, and then the actual SMM online community was heavily overrepresented with Japanese players, so I got the impression it was really popular. I guess I'm just used to 1st party Switch heavy hitters ending in the 100+ point ballpark and this seems like a short amount of time to get those points. Fire Emblem does fine though, almost always getting 500k+ lifetime, which isn't bad for Japan. But Farsala pointed out above that it's actually early for FE, so that was a bad example on my part. FE will probably be fine, maybe even really successful based on how it's doing compared to Fates. I'm glad someone is willing to acknowledge just how astounding the drop has been. 600k FW sales, 1000+ points on COMG, the Pokemon comparisons were justified. It was never going to "kill" Pokemon or even match it, but it did do close to Pokemon like numbers at one point. The decline has been incredible to behold. I'm beginning to doubt it'll even get 100 points, though I'm sure with Switch's favorable ratios that'll still translate to 150k+ first week, but that's still a depressing drop and makes me concerned for the series' future in the west, and perhaps even its having any future at all. You have to admit though that the charts are in a pretty terrible state to have such incredible titles sitting so low, beneath even a delayed game with an unannounced release date and only 3 dozen points between 2 SKUs. I maintain that COMG as a business looks to be having a rough spot. |
Mario Maker debuted with 138k acording to wikipedia. Pre-orders started 3 days ago for Mario Maker 2. It will be fine.
Day of the year | Sony points | Nintendo points | Sony games | Nintendo games | Sony ratio | Nintendo ratio |
7-Jan-2019 | 793 | 53 | 18 | 2 | 44 | 27 |
21-Jan-2019 | 934 | 8 | 19 | 1 | 49 | 8 |
4-Feb-2019 | 385 | 14 | 19 | 1 | 20 | 14 |
18-Feb-2019 | 435 | 39 | 17 | 3 | 26 | 13 |
4-Mar-2019 | 429 | 53 | 16 | 4 | 27 | 13 |
18-Mar-2019 | 396 | 127 | 13 | 7 | 30 | 18 |
25-Mar-2019 | 145 | 130 | 13 | 7 | 11 | 19 |
8-Apr-2019 | 162 | 130 | 12 | 8 | 14 | 16 |
22-Apr-2019 | 172 | 168 | 11 | 9 | 16 | 19 |
23-Apr-2019 | 174 | 169 | 11 | 9 | 16 | 19 |
24-Apr-2019 | 176 | 170 | 11 | 9 | 16 | 19 |
25-Apr-2019 | 174 | 180 | 10 | 10 | 17 | 18 |
26-Apr-2019 | 189 | 88 | 12 | 8 | 16 | 11 |
27-Apr-2019 | 134 | 93 | 12 | 8 | 11 | 12 |
28-Apr-2019 | 136 | 97 | 12 | 8 | 11 | 12 |
29-Apr-2019 | 138 | 99 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 12 |
30-Apr-2019 | 138 | 103 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 13 |
1-May-2019 | 139 | 105 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 13 |
2-May-2019 | 141 | 110 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 14 |
Average 2019 | 411 | 76 | 15 | 5 | 27 | 16 |
Lryu222 said:
Mario Maker debuted with 138k acording to wikipedia. Pre-orders started 3 days ago for Mario Maker 2. It will be fine. |
Yeah it will be fine especially in the long run. This will be one of those games as you said fueled by the online community. In terms of FW sales, it still has a lot of time to make an entrance. I got a hunch this will do 400k+ FW
And there he is already.
Didn't think he'd be so early, but then again, points are really low now...
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Day of the year | Sony points | Nintendo points | Sony games | Nintendo games | Sony ratio | Nintendo ratio |
7-Jan-2019 | 793 | 53 | 18 | 2 | 44 | 27 |
21-Jan-2019 | 934 | 8 | 19 | 1 | 49 | 8 |
4-Feb-2019 | 385 | 14 | 19 | 1 | 20 | 14 |
18-Feb-2019 | 435 | 39 | 17 | 3 | 26 | 13 |
4-Mar-2019 | 429 | 53 | 16 | 4 | 27 | 13 |
18-Mar-2019 | 396 | 127 | 13 | 7 | 30 | 18 |
25-Mar-2019 | 145 | 130 | 13 | 7 | 11 | 19 |
8-Apr-2019 | 162 | 130 | 12 | 8 | 14 | 16 |
22-Apr-2019 | 172 | 168 | 11 | 9 | 16 | 19 |
23-Apr-2019 | 174 | 169 | 11 | 9 | 16 | 19 |
24-Apr-2019 | 176 | 170 | 11 | 9 | 16 | 19 |
25-Apr-2019 | 174 | 180 | 10 | 10 | 17 | 18 |
26-Apr-2019 | 189 | 88 | 12 | 8 | 16 | 11 |
27-Apr-2019 | 134 | 93 | 12 | 8 | 11 | 12 |
28-Apr-2019 | 136 | 97 | 12 | 8 | 11 | 12 |
29-Apr-2019 | 138 | 99 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 12 |
30-Apr-2019 | 138 | 103 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 13 |
1-May-2019 | 139 | 105 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 13 |
2-May-2019 | 141 | 110 | 12 | 8 | 12 | 14 |
3-May-2019 | 137 | 116 | 11 | 9 | 12 | 13 |
Average 2019 | 409 | 76 | 15 | 5 | 27 | 16 |