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Kresnik on 25 February 2015

Dr.Vita said:

Nope, they all did better (or equal) in the west than in Japan though they are Japan games.
God Eater 2: Rage Burst could do 400k in Japan, why not 200k in North America and 200k in Europe? Another 200k in the rest of the world and we have 1M. It is not as difficult as you think.

Okay. So your argument is popularity in Japan = popularity in the west. If that's the case, why doesn't Monster Hunter sell 4.5m in the west (because that's what it sells in Japan. And it's really easy - 1.5m in USA; 1.5m in Europe; 1.5m in rest of the world).

Look for similar games. Soul Sacrifice did 220k on Vita in the west, if we trust VGC numbers. Freedom Wars did 180k. It's just not going to pull the numbers you think it will, because Vita is a struggling console and the genre is niche over here.

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Jabbamk1 on 25 February 2015

Dr.Vita said:

Kresnik said:

I know it's not the best metric, but amazon.jp is suggesting the game really isn't going to have any legs.

Only long tail I can see it having is if the anime takes off.

The same like God Eater 2, it also dropped fast after the first week but still managed 440k units.

What's your source for this? And for the love of god don't say VGChartz....

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Dr.Vita on 25 February 2015

Kresnik said:

Dr.Vita said:

Nope, they all did better (or equal) in the west than in Japan though they are Japan games.
God Eater 2: Rage Burst could do 400k in Japan, why not 200k in North America and 200k in Europe? Another 200k in the rest of the world and we have 1M. It is not as difficult as you think.

Okay. So your argument is popularity in Japan = popularity in the west. If that's the case, why doesn't Monster Hunter sell 4.5m in the west (because that's what it sells in Japan. And it's really easy - 1.5m in USA; 1.5m in Europe; 1.5m in rest of the world).

Look for similar games. Soul Sacrifice did 220k on Vita in the west, if we trust VGC numbers. Freedom Wars did 180k. It's just not going to pull the numbers you think it will, because Vita is a struggling console and the genre is niche over here.

Because Monster Hunter is just a beast in Japan and the best selling franchise there. Monster Hunter can't be compared with this methode. Freedom Wars did 180k in the west, but these games has usually very big legs in the west (just look at the western sales of Freedom Wars for January 2015 ≈17k). It will beat Japan sales (300k) easily in the future! Just wait.

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hiska-kun on 25 February 2015

Dr.Vita said:

Kresnik said:

Okay. So your argument is popularity in Japan = popularity in the west. If that's the case, why doesn't Monster Hunter sell 4.5m in the west (because that's what it sells in Japan. And it's really easy - 1.5m in USA; 1.5m in Europe; 1.5m in rest of the world).

Look for similar games. Soul Sacrifice did 220k on Vita in the west, if we trust VGC numbers. Freedom Wars did 180k. It's just not going to pull the numbers you think it will, because Vita is a struggling console and the genre is niche over here.

Because Monster Hunter is just a beast in Japan and the best selling franchise there. Monster Hunter can't be compared with this methode. Freedom Wars did 180k in the west, but these games has usually very big legs in the west (just look at the western sales of Freedom Wars for January 2015 ≈17k). It will beat Japan sales (300k) easily in the future! Just wait.

Too bad that most people here (including me) don't believe vgchartz numbers.

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outlawauron on 25 February 2015

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Dr.Vita said:

Kresnik said:

a) God Eater 2 was the first God Eater game on the platform - this is the second. It's likely this one will be more front loaded than the last, if only slightly.

b) It managed 400k physical (ignoring for VGChartz constatracking) and you're suggesting 500k in Japan, and then another 500k in the west?

It should reach 400k with digital at least in Japan. Western sales will be poor on Vita.

I still don't see a reason why it couldn't sell that good in the west. God Eater 2 hasn't been released in the west so God Eater 2: Rage Burst would be the first version here. And a lot Japanese oriented games did good in the west:
Gravity Rush did 90k in Japan and 360k in the west.
Final Fantasy X / X2 HD Remaster did 280k in Japan and 310k in the west.
Tales of Hearts did 90k in Japan and 170k in the west.
Soul Sacrifice did 220k in Japan and 220k in the west.
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Not to be that guy, buy nothing does well on the vita in the west. Chances are its sales will be poor on the vita in the west because it is usually the case with msot games.

Poor enough to continue to get games localized? While there's no chance for 500k imo, let's not act like there isn't a pretty established audience for these games in the West.