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Hynad said:
Now, if I want to talk about the technical aspects of the game in a thread titled "Monolith Soft X game improved graphics?", I think I'm quite at the right place.

The OP meant improved graphics compared against the same trailer for the same game. As already was pointed out (from you too), nothing has changed, only someone changed saturation. So the OP was making the title based on wrong assumptions.

The discussion you guys have is a misunderstanding. Nem and Shinobi-san said, that this game is so far the most impressive game for next-gen-platforms so far. And meant with impressive: impressive as a game as a whole. I agree with that.

You said, that the game isn't (judging at the trailers so far) not pushing technical limits as far as some of the games that were shown for PS4. I agree with that.

So the misunderstanding is clearly about the focus of what is called impressive here.



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Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Now, if I want to talk about the technical aspects of the game in a thread titled "Monolith Soft X game improved graphics?", I think I'm quite at the right place.

The OP meant improved graphics compared against the same trailer for the same game. As already was pointed out (from you too), nothing has changed, only someone changed saturation. So the OP was making the title based on wrong assumptions.

The discussion you guys have is a misunderstanding. Nem and Shinobi-san said, that this game is so far the most impressive game for next-gen-platforms so far. And meant with impressive: impressive as a game as a whole. I agree with that.

You said, that the game isn't (judging at the trailers so far) not pushing technical limits as far as some of the games that were shown for PS4. I agree with that.

So the misunderstanding is clearly about the focus of what is called impressive here.

Doubtful. Since Nem implied technical aspects when he mentioned the tech nuts, S-E's Agnis tech demo and Deep Down. 


One thing is certain, I don't question that as a game and as a JRPG, X looks promising.



Euphoria14 said:
Shinobi-san said:
Euphoria14 said:
Shinobi-san said:
WHY DOES EVERY THREAD END IN AN ARGUMENT ON THIS DAMN SITE WTF?!?!?!

FFS the game looks good to a lot of people. It looks NEXT GEN to a lot of people. These are certainly not technical terms. If someone could give me the technical measurement that defines next gen then that's a different case. But there isn't.


It's called debating.

What, do you want every thread to be where everyone agrees on everything? Shit would get real boring, real fast.

i didnt think this was a debate though....

Felt more like an argument...for me at least. Ive seen healthy debates on other gaming forums and they dont go down like this.


I saw it as two people clearly disagreeing on what constitutes something as next gen and giving their views on the matter.

 

I like it when that happens.

Nope. You saw one side that was saying the game is so far the most impressive game overall for them in the next-gen and the other side saying that the game has not the most impressive graphics for next-gen games showed so far. So two people discussing with each other while talkign about different things.



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Shinobi-san said:
Scisca said:
The game looks really nice, I'll most probably get it, but I have to agree 100% with Hynad. You guys who are arguing with him seem to be dreaming terrified of and refusing to waking up. The game looks ok. It really isn't anything breathtaking, surely not what I expect from next gen, but still it's very good in it's own right and will probably be an awesome game.


Pretty sure its the other way around. 

I don't see how you can criticise someone for being excited about a game. I also think this trailer was just done very well...it was pretty breathtaking for me when I first saw it. Hynad just didnt like the fact that some people found this more impressive than other next gen games. Which i find hilarious.


Well, I'm sorry to tell you that you are wrong.

Stop turning the thing around - nobody is criticising anyone being excited. Nem claims this is the most impressive next-gen stuff out there, so he can't be surpriced that people are calling him on it, since he's just... wrong. Judging the level of graphics has nothing to do with being excited about a game. I'm excited about this game as well, I think it will be awesome, but still realistically see where its graphics stand. I guess it's just your problem if you find the truth hilarious.



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Hynad said:
Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Now, if I want to talk about the technical aspects of the game in a thread titled "Monolith Soft X game improved graphics?", I think I'm quite at the right place.

The OP meant improved graphics compared against the same trailer for the same game. As already was pointed out (from you too), nothing has changed, only someone changed saturation. So the OP was making the title based on wrong assumptions.

The discussion you guys have is a misunderstanding. Nem and Shinobi-san said, that this game is so far the most impressive game for next-gen-platforms so far. And meant with impressive: impressive as a game as a whole. I agree with that.

You said, that the game isn't (judging at the trailers so far) not pushing technical limits as far as some of the games that were shown for PS4. I agree with that.

So the misunderstanding is clearly about the focus of what is called impressive here.

Doubtful. Since Nem implied technical aspects when he mentioned the tech nuts, S-E's Agnis tech demo and Deep Down. 


One thing is certain, I don't question that as a game and as a JRPG, X looks promising.

He said he may get hate from the tech-nuts. I don't see he said he is impressed by X because of the graphics. His attack against Agni and Deep Down was uncalled for and should not added in a thread about X.

As I said before, I agree with both of your positions, as I see them as not contradicting. If you read the posts different, then it's your opinion against my opinion.

I don't care for the later posts there each side is claiming the other side is flaming or baiting. That added nothing substantial.



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current gen game on a current gen system, next.



Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Now, if I want to talk about the technical aspects of the game in a thread titled "Monolith Soft X game improved graphics?", I think I'm quite at the right place.

The OP meant improved graphics compared against the same trailer for the same game. As already was pointed out (from you too), nothing has changed, only someone changed saturation. So the OP was making the title based on wrong assumptions.

The discussion you guys have is a misunderstanding. Nem and Shinobi-san said, that this game is so far the most impressive game for next-gen-platforms so far. And meant with impressive: impressive as a game as a whole. I agree with that.

You said, that the game isn't (judging at the trailers so far) not pushing technical limits as far as some of the games that were shown for PS4. I agree with that.

So the misunderstanding is clearly about the focus of what is called impressive here.

Doubtful. Since Nem implied technical aspects when he mentioned the tech nuts, S-E's Agnis tech demo and Deep Down. 


One thing is certain, I don't question that as a game and as a JRPG, X looks promising.

He said he may get hate from the tech-nuts. I don't see he said he is impressed by X because of the graphics. His attack against Agni and Deep Down was uncalled for and should not added in a thread about X.

As I said before, I agree with both of your positions, as I see them as not contradicting. If you read the posts different, then it's your opinion against my opinion.

I don't care for the later posts there each side is claiming the other side is flaming or baiting. That added nothing substantial.


Maybe you're right, but that would make his post a very badly misleading one :P I guess if he used "exciting" instead of "impressive" it would make more sense, but referring to a game like Deep Down, that has nothing about it shown except for the level of graphics indicates that he factors in graphics quite strongly.



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Scisca said:
Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Mnementh said:
Hynad said:
Now, if I want to talk about the technical aspects of the game in a thread titled "Monolith Soft X game improved graphics?", I think I'm quite at the right place.

The OP meant improved graphics compared against the same trailer for the same game. As already was pointed out (from you too), nothing has changed, only someone changed saturation. So the OP was making the title based on wrong assumptions.

The discussion you guys have is a misunderstanding. Nem and Shinobi-san said, that this game is so far the most impressive game for next-gen-platforms so far. And meant with impressive: impressive as a game as a whole. I agree with that.

You said, that the game isn't (judging at the trailers so far) not pushing technical limits as far as some of the games that were shown for PS4. I agree with that.

So the misunderstanding is clearly about the focus of what is called impressive here.

Doubtful. Since Nem implied technical aspects when he mentioned the tech nuts, S-E's Agnis tech demo and Deep Down. 


One thing is certain, I don't question that as a game and as a JRPG, X looks promising.

He said he may get hate from the tech-nuts. I don't see he said he is impressed by X because of the graphics. His attack against Agni and Deep Down was uncalled for and should not added in a thread about X.

As I said before, I agree with both of your positions, as I see them as not contradicting. If you read the posts different, then it's your opinion against my opinion.

I don't care for the later posts there each side is claiming the other side is flaming or baiting. That added nothing substantial.


Maybe you're right, but that would make his post a very badly misleading one :P I guess if he used "exciting" instead of "impressive" it would make more sense, but referring to a game like Deep Down, that has nothing about it shown except for the level of graphics indicates that he factors in graphics quite strongly.


Nem was talking about the graphics. He's done that a few times in the past when talking about that game, and it was always about the graphics. 



Hynad said:
Shinobi-san said:
Scisca said:
The game looks really nice, I'll most probably get it, but I have to agree 100% with Hynad. You guys who are arguing with him seem to be dreaming terrified of and refusing to waking up. The game looks ok. It really isn't anything breathtaking, surely not what I expect from next gen, but still it's very good in it's own right and will probably be an awesome game.


Pretty sure its the other way around. 

I don't see how you can criticise someone for being excited about a game. I also think this trailer was just done very well...it was pretty breathtaking for me when I first saw it. Hynad just didnt like the fact that some people found this more impressive than other next gen games. Which i find hilarious.

Ha ha ha! And you said I was flame baiting? You also pretended that you were glad the argument was over...

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Why would I dislike the fact that some people are more interested in that game than other next gen games? I too am interested in that game.

No, it's the statement by Nem which implied the somehow unmatched technical greatness of the game that I put into question. For some reason, most likely your bias, that didn't please you so much. 

Get real. I was replying to Scisca's comments about us arguing with you. Read the thread it is the other way around.

Ive repeatedly stated that my comments and yours are not contradicting each other. Nem had different opinions which i also did not agree with. We do not have the same opinions on this.



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Hynad said:
Scisca said:


Maybe you're right, but that would make his post a very badly misleading one :P I guess if he used "exciting" instead of "impressive" it would make more sense, but referring to a game like Deep Down, that has nothing about it shown except for the level of graphics indicates that he factors in graphics quite strongly.


Nem was talking about the graphics. He's done that a few times in the past when talking about that game, and it was always about the graphics. 


Well not sure about Nem but i have made it clear what i meant by impressive.



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