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BlkPaladin on 26 April 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BlkPaladin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
redgreenblue said:
deskpro2k3 said:
So no show at E3? The future of Nintendo looks grim.


I can see how stories get so totally blown out of proportion. Nintendo say they're going to change up the way they present at e3 and focus on smaller presentations that are aimed to individual stakeholders, rather than have one large boring presentation aimed at everyone. Because of this you think the future of Nintendo looks grim?


Let me paint a picture for you.

Wrestlemania's main event turns into a one on one match because one main eventer in the arranged triple threat match dodged the main event to fight a lesser opponent.

Get it?

Fair enough let me paint one for you. You go to this match and they stop the action ever 3 mintues to give you a run down of every wrestler's financial status and the status of the venue and the legue as a whole and then they have to cancel the end of the match because they are running over the time they told the venue they would finish at a certin time.

What Nintendo is removing what the gaming audience wants, the game announcments, and what the investors and business partners want and turning it into two shows. One of the biggest complaints about Microsoft presentation is they "allow" the business end of the event to overly dominate the press conference, and unfortantly that is one of the biggest parts of E3. So the business partner show will be a Nokia Theater at the usual time, and during this time, they will allow select gaming press to come into their booth and start playing the titles they have been announcing in the ND for the past week. In addition they will probally relase exclusive videos and demos for the people who are following the media show, so they get the gamers into the action as well.

Now I'm not going to say that it could backfire on them. But the laste two, three years the "big" press event hasn't been doing much for Nintendo. And actually the big all encompassing events have more of a chance to backfire on the presenter then actually help them.

What is Nintendo doing to get peoples attention on Youtube. They can barely scrape over a million + views. most of those a reviews and the Nintendo faithful and that is what Sessler was talking about. Its not healthy publicity. What made the Wii successful was the Wii was engineered to take his hand away from the core gamer and put the control into everyone elses hands. The core Nintendo fan will be happy no matter what Nintendo does so casual or not they'll love it. Nintendo has nothing to gain from preaching to the choir of their subscribers on their page who represent a minority of buyers who most likely already have the console. They need software and they need it now.

Creig Harris made a valid point on this. When Nintendo has a Direct the press bends over backwards to cover it. Maybe they are not getting as many hits because they are reading on IGN, here on the forums, or a dozen of other media outlets that cover it. It does it a lot of publicity even if there are some people who like to ignore this. Because they do they are not a person who whould watch the Nintendo press event any way



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S.T.A.G.E. on 26 April 2013
JazzB1987 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BluGamer23 said:
'Sticking their head in the sand'... 'look up at giants' HAHAHA

Just LOL man! come on... giants with ZERO install base.. relax =)


I am relaxed, and sad for Nintendo. Nintendo hasnt been my first choice since I was really young in the 90's and this is proving every reason why. Actually I didnt really have a choice in the matter when my parents got me the NES and SNES, but they were my childhood. My respect is there  but that comes with heavy disappointment.

What exactly did change?  I mean I buy Nintendo consoles because their games have a special flair  Mario Zelda Mario Kart etc.  The only thing different is that they lost most of the JRPGs.

Back in the day there were games like Contra  or Final Fight and Turtles etc  awesome games  but those games dont exist anyway   so what does a PS3 or 360 have  "old" Nintendo consoles had  but the Wii  for example has not?

Average games  crafted by people that are rushing their games out    games without soul  etc is nothing I want.  And the occasional sports, racing games always came to Nintendo consoles.

The only reason why I bought a 360 is because of all the early  japanese games and Dead or Alive 4. The only reasony why I bought a Ps3 is because of JRPGs.  I have like 40 PS3 and 40 360 games but 50-60 Wii games.

If Jrpgs would  target WiiU  as they did with DS    I would not have a reason to buy another console anymore.   But sadly games like tales of graces come out on PS3 in europe  but not Wii   and other games were not even made for Gamecube, Wii etc at all.

I mean if I would have to choose 1 game for the whole 7th generation I could keep and the rest would be destroyed It would propably be Xenoblade. This is a typical  OLDSCHOOL-FLAIR game.  I love games like that.  Graphics dont matter every game will look like shit sooner or later (when its not an artstyle masterpiece like Wind Waker etc)  So I concentrate on the most important aspect from the very beginning which is gameplay.


Old school flair....thats just the problem. Its always nostalgia and never moving forward, never pushing what new characters can be brought to the table. Thats why I left Nintendo for greener pastures. I like old school, but it cant be all you are or you will eventually become so stale the whole world will eventually notice.



S.T.A.G.E. on 26 April 2013
BlkPaladin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BlkPaladin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
redgreenblue said:
deskpro2k3 said:
So no show at E3? The future of Nintendo looks grim.


I can see how stories get so totally blown out of proportion. Nintendo say they're going to change up the way they present at e3 and focus on smaller presentations that are aimed to individual stakeholders, rather than have one large boring presentation aimed at everyone. Because of this you think the future of Nintendo looks grim?


Let me paint a picture for you.

Wrestlemania's main event turns into a one on one match because one main eventer in the arranged triple threat match dodged the main event to fight a lesser opponent.

Get it?

Fair enough let me paint one for you. You go to this match and they stop the action ever 3 mintues to give you a run down of every wrestler's financial status and the status of the venue and the legue as a whole and then they have to cancel the end of the match because they are running over the time they told the venue they would finish at a certin time.

What Nintendo is removing what the gaming audience wants, the game announcments, and what the investors and business partners want and turning it into two shows. One of the biggest complaints about Microsoft presentation is they "allow" the business end of the event to overly dominate the press conference, and unfortantly that is one of the biggest parts of E3. So the business partner show will be a Nokia Theater at the usual time, and during this time, they will allow select gaming press to come into their booth and start playing the titles they have been announcing in the ND for the past week. In addition they will probally relase exclusive videos and demos for the people who are following the media show, so they get the gamers into the action as well.

Now I'm not going to say that it could backfire on them. But the laste two, three years the "big" press event hasn't been doing much for Nintendo. And actually the big all encompassing events have more of a chance to backfire on the presenter then actually help them.

What is Nintendo doing to get peoples attention on Youtube. They can barely scrape over a million + views. most of those a reviews and the Nintendo faithful and that is what Sessler was talking about. Its not healthy publicity. What made the Wii successful was the Wii was engineered to take his hand away from the core gamer and put the control into everyone elses hands. The core Nintendo fan will be happy no matter what Nintendo does so casual or not they'll love it. Nintendo has nothing to gain from preaching to the choir of their subscribers on their page who represent a minority of buyers who most likely already have the console. They need software and they need it now.

Creig Harris made a valid point on this. When Nintendo has a Direct the press bends over backwards to cover it. Maybe they are not getting as many hits because they are reading on IGN, here on the forums, or a dozen of other media outlets that cover it. It does it a lot of publicity even if there are some people who like to ignore this. Because they do they are not a person who whould watch the Nintendo press event any way


That press is mostly the gaming media. The broader media only focuses on the launch for hype value and ratings. 

Remember this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNMNhwzbUMs



DanneSandin on 26 April 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I personally think its a cop out and cowardice because they wont be able to top Sony and Microsoft. They wont play their game so they want to run and hide on Youtube.

Oh man, that's just plain ignorant. Seriously. It's called strategy. It's what Nintendo did with both Wii and DS - and look how that turned out. I don't say I agree with what Nintendo is planning, and I can't say it's a great idea, but you're going too far here. Fact is they don't have a new machine to unveil, but that doesn't mean Nintendo are cowards for not facing MS and Sony head on.

What would have happened to Afghanistan if they took Soviet head on? Vietnam vs USA. Hannibal vs the Romans. If you have underwhelming tech, are in a inferior position, can't take on the "enemy" head on you out-maneuver them in some other way. And that's what Nintendo is TRYING to do. I'm not saying they'll succeed, but that's what they are trying to do. So calling them for hiding cowards are plain ignorant.



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LiquorandGunFun on 26 April 2013

I think he is spot on, its what went through my mind yesterday when the thread was posted on this site. it makes complete sense what he said.

this is nintendos shittiest strategy,. They will get swept up in a shitnami this year.

im not rooting for nintendo failure, i just think they are well, stupid at this point. I will be surprised and glad if i am wrong, but i doubt it.

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-Mr Khan



 

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KHlover on 26 April 2013

@Pezus: Like I already told S.T.A.G.E and like BlkPaladin already said the gaming media bends backwards to report about the Nintendo Directs (You can find articles everywhere within 10 minutes of the end of the stream) and outside of the USA the E3 only gets mentioned by gaming media, mass media doesn't give a shit about it. Outside of the USA it honestly makes no difference if they stream a live presentation or a prerecorded presentation.



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DanneSandin on 26 April 2013
pezus said:
DanneSandin said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I personally think its a cop out and cowardice because they wont be able to top Sony and Microsoft. They wont play their game so they want to run and hide on Youtube.

Oh man, that's just plain ignorant. Seriously. It's called strategy. It's what Nintendo did with both Wii and DS - and look how that turned out. I don't say I agree with what Nintendo is planning, and I can't say it's a great idea, but you're going too far here. Fact is they don't have a new machine to unveil, but that doesn't mean Nintendo are cowards for not facing MS and Sony head on.

What would have happened to Afghanistan if they took Soviet head on? Vietnam vs USA. Hannibal vs the Romans. If you have underwhelming tech, are in a inferior position, can't take on the "enemy" head on you out-maneuver them in some other way. And that's what Nintendo is TRYING to do. I'm not saying they'll succeed, but that's what they are trying to do. So calling them for hiding cowards are plain ignorant.

Yes, I don't believe it's a cop-out but I do believe this strategy is bad. This is not what Nintendo did with Wii and DS btw. Everything they've done with WiiU so far is nothing like what they did last gen. 

Oh, when I was refering to Wii/DS I was referring to the strategic element of those products; using inferior tech (in the case of Wii) but tried out a new controller. They tried this once again with Wii U, but that..... didn't go down as well.

I'd have thought announcing release dates and showing videos for Mario Kart U, a new 3D Mario, Smash Bros, Wii Fit U would've been big enough honestly. Then there's also the 3DS. Nintendo have never feared talking about their "inferior tech" console at the same time as the others are speaking so I really have no idea why they're changing this. Sony and MS didn't stop making E3 presentations when Nintendo had the WiiU to announce.

I actually hope they try something different than simply having a longer ND; in that case they could simply have had an ordinary E3 conference. Having Mario, Mario Kart, SSB4, Wind Waker HD, Pokémon X/Y, Zelda LTTP2, "X", Retro's new game, Bayo2 and surely other games as well would ensure a great e3 - just like you said. SO hopefully they'll do something different to blow us away, or else I don't see the need of 1-2h long ND's....





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KHlover on 26 April 2013

@pezus In Germany they haven't. Maybe I should have formulated that part a bit more specific, but since Germany is the 3rd biggest gaming market in Europe I was pretty sure it would be like this in smaller markets, too. We DO get mass media coverage about the gamescom though...but the coverage only makes fun of gamers and doesn't mention the actual subject at all -_-



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DanneSandin on 26 April 2013
KHlover said:
@pezus In Germany they haven't. Maybe I should have formulated that part a bit more specific, but since Germany is the 3rd biggest gaming market in Europe I was pretty sure it would be like this in smaller markets, too. We DO get mass media coverage about the gamescom though...but the coverage only makes fun of gamers and doesn't mention the actual subject at all -_-

WTF?! lulz!!

Mainstream media ^^



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Panama on 26 April 2013

Didn't they say the new Smash Bros will be playable this year at E3? I don't get the submissiveness to be honest. That's a system seller if there ever was one.