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Wanting the entire industry to crash because it's not catering to you is just sad.



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Sal.Paradise said:
Wanting the entire industry to crash because it's not catering to you is just sad.


I want a kick to their pants not a full blown crash. Seriously, I highly reccommend you watching that video I posted in reply to pezus's comment.

Some section of the industry need to grow up.



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Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Wanting the entire industry to crash because it's not catering to you is just sad.


I want a kick to their pants not a full blown crash. Seriously, I highly reccommend you watching that video I posted in reply to pezus's comment.

Some section of the industry need to grow up.

Watched it, he has an issue with their crappy marketing and the couple of subpar games he listed, ok. 

Wanting companies to feel repercussions for anti-consumer activities (things the video didn't touch upon..) is fine, I do too. Salivating at the prospect of a gaming crash because you don't like EA is nonsensical. 



Sal.Paradise said:
Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Wanting the entire industry to crash because it's not catering to you is just sad.


I want a kick to their pants not a full blown crash. Seriously, I highly reccommend you watching that video I posted in reply to pezus's comment.

Some section of the industry need to grow up.

Watched it, he as an issue with their crappy marketing and the couple of subpar games he listed, ok. 

Wanting companies to feel repercussions for anti-consumer activities (things the video didn't touch upon..) is fine, I do too. Salivating at the prospect of a gaming crash because you don't like EA is nonsensical. 

Alright, well that's your opinion and I respect that. Just note that I don't want a crash due to EA, I want a crash in the western AAA industry in general and I want EA to be part of it.

EA is only a part of the bigger problem. Actually I'm willing to believe that all the crap that the publishers have been giving us this past gen, we're blaming it on EA because they show the most prominence while doing this, when in reality it's a general industry attitude towards the treatment of the medium.

Besides, if the last crash brought forth so many good things, I'm fairly sure this one will too.



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Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Wanting the entire industry to crash because it's not catering to you is just sad.


I want a kick to their pants not a full blown crash. Seriously, I highly reccommend you watching that video I posted in reply to pezus's comment.

Some section of the industry need to grow up.

Watched it, he as an issue with their crappy marketing and the couple of subpar games he listed, ok. 

Wanting companies to feel repercussions for anti-consumer activities (things the video didn't touch upon..) is fine, I do too. Salivating at the prospect of a gaming crash because you don't like EA is nonsensical. 

Alright, well that's your opinion and I respect that. Just note that I don't want a crash due to EA, I want a crash in the western AAA industry in general and I want EA to be part of it.

EA is only a part of the bigger problem. Actually I'm willing to believe that all the crap that the publishers have been giving us this past gen, we're blaming it on EA because they show the most prominence while doing this, when in reality it's a general industry attitude towards the treatment of the medium.

Besides, if the last crash brought forth so many good things, I'm fairly sure this one will too.

Ok, so your issue isn't with EA, it's with Western AAA games. Predictable. 

You don't like them (all??) so want all the companies making them to encounter serious financial trouble and be forced to make games you do like or go bankrupt, correct? And preferably on platforms of your choice? 



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Otakumegane said:

Alright, well that's your opinion and I respect that. Just note that I don't want a crash due to EA, I want a crash in the western AAA industry in general and I want EA to be part of it.

EA is only a part of the bigger problem. Actually I'm willing to believe that all the crap that the publishers have been giving us this past gen, we're blaming it on EA because they show the most prominence while doing this, when in reality it's a general industry attitude towards the treatment of the medium.

Besides, if the last crash brought forth so many good things, I'm fairly sure this one will too.


 

My guess is he expects Japan to save the day again. Even though they haven't changed much since the 8-bit days.



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Sal.Paradise said:
Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:
Wanting the entire industry to crash because it's not catering to you is just sad.


I want a kick to their pants not a full blown crash. Seriously, I highly reccommend you watching that video I posted in reply to pezus's comment.

Some section of the industry need to grow up.

Watched it, he as an issue with their crappy marketing and the couple of subpar games he listed, ok. 

Wanting companies to feel repercussions for anti-consumer activities (things the video didn't touch upon..) is fine, I do too. Salivating at the prospect of a gaming crash because you don't like EA is nonsensical. 

Alright, well that's your opinion and I respect that. Just note that I don't want a crash due to EA, I want a crash in the western AAA industry in general and I want EA to be part of it.

EA is only a part of the bigger problem. Actually I'm willing to believe that all the crap that the publishers have been giving us this past gen, we're blaming it on EA because they show the most prominence while doing this, when in reality it's a general industry attitude towards the treatment of the medium.

Besides, if the last crash brought forth so many good things, I'm fairly sure this one will too.

Ok, so your issue isn't with EA, it's with Western AAA games. Predictable. 

You don't like them (all??) so want all the companies making them to encounter serious financial stress and be forced to make games you do like, correct? And preferably on platforms of your choice? 

Woah there no need to get so antsy.

No I do not like the hero-infused shooting waves of enemies FPSs and the GTAs. I feel that they only devalue gaming in general and enforce the stereotype of gaming saturated by dudebro swOgfags when that is obviously not the case. Gaming should not be reduced to such a level.

What really just upsets me particularly in the Western gaming industry is seeing games that could have been even greater having to be forced to copy Call of Duty elements to sell or having the boxart be generic white guy holding a gun. See Bioshock Infinite. (Just in case you think me of as a Japanophile or anything, there is only 1 thing that pisses me off more than this and that's Japanese industry treatment of girls/women in games which I find even worse than the Western portrayal. Dragon's Crown and whatnot, waifus, etc.)

At the moment the only Western AAA title that I find enjoyable is the Halo series (though even less after Halo 4), but that doesn't mean I hate Western games in general. Just the direction that this AAA mindset is forcing other games to become. Do play lot of League of Legends if that's considered AAA.

But, I do love the Western Indie community because of not sharing that mindset of "having to be a violence filled empowerment game". Hell I love Minecraft and what it's done to the industry.

Would I buy AAA western titles even if was on a Nintendo platform? If they are guilty of the above then no I would shun them. Do I want these companies that make these kind of games to suffer? Oh god yes, I want them to learn from their sufferings and adapt. I want them to BURN and hopefully come out humbled. Something Nintendo needs to do as well. 

EDIT:And now I realize why I sound so hating of the West. My name is an inside joke and Lucina is a damn good character. 



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Mr Puggsly said:

My guess is he expects Japan to save the day again. Even though they haven't changed much since the 8-bit days.


Oh hell no. They need to change as well, if they want to reach global audiences and stop relying on anime tropes and boob physics within their own little niche base.

 



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Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:

Ok, so your issue isn't with EA, it's with Western AAA games. Predictable. 

You don't like them (all??) so want all the companies making them to encounter serious financial stress and be forced to make games you do like, correct? And preferably on platforms of your choice? 

Woah there no need to get so antsy.

No I do not like the hero-infused shooting waves of enemies FPSs and the GTAs. I feel that they only devalue gaming in general and enforce the stereotype of gaming saturated by dudebro swagfags when that is obviously not the case. Gaming should not be reduced to such a level.

What really just upsets me particularly in the Western gaming industry is seeing games that could have been even greater having to be forced to copy Call of Duty elements to sell or having the boxart be generic white guy holding a gun. See Bioshock Infinite. (Just in case you think me of as a Japanophile or anything, there is only 1 thing that pisses me off more than this and that's Japanese industry treatment of girls/women in games which I find even worse than the Western portrayal. Dragon's Crown and whatnot, waifus, etc.)

At the moment the only Western AAA title that I find enjoyable is the Halo series (though even less after Halo 4), but that doesn't mean I hate Western games in general. Just the direction that this AAA mindset is forcing other games to become. Do play lot of League of Legends if that's considered AAA.

But, I do love the Western Indie community because of not sharing that mindset of "having to be a violence filled empowerment game". Hell I love Minecraft and what it's done to the industry.

Would I buy AAA western titles even if was on a Nintendo platform? If they are guilty of the above then no I would shun them. Do I want these companies that make these kind of games to suffer? Oh god yes, I want them to learn from their sufferings and adapt. I want them to BURN and hopefully come out humbled. Something Nintendo needs to do as well. 

EDIT:And now I realize why I sound so hating of the West. My name is an inside joke and Lucina is a damn good character. 

No I do not like the hero-infused shooting waves of enemies FPSs and the GTAs. I feel that they only devalue gaming in general and enforce the stereotype of gaming saturated by dudebro swagfags when that is obviously not the case. Gaming should not be reduced to such a level.

At the moment the only Western AAA title that I find enjoyable is the Halo series 

What? The Halo series is exactly what you're talking about..

 

As to your point...yes, it's pretty exactly much what I said. You don't enjoy these games, so you don't want to see them successful. They don't 'devalue' the industry, they just take the industry in a direction you don't like, because you don't enjoy those games.

So you want to see games you don't like fail. That's it.  (apart from Halo I guess...weird to have such strong opinions on these games but then mention you do infact like one example of them). 

Edit: You mention GTA specifically...don't you often talk about how much you enjoy Sleeping Dogs? One of the most derivative GTA inspired games out there? Sorry if I have you confused with someone else. 



Sal.Paradise said:
Otakumegane said:
Sal.Paradise said:

Ok, so your issue isn't with EA, it's with Western AAA games. Predictable. 

You don't like them (all??) so want all the companies making them to encounter serious financial stress and be forced to make games you do like, correct? And preferably on platforms of your choice? 

Woah there no need to get so antsy.

No I do not like the hero-infused shooting waves of enemies FPSs and the GTAs. I feel that they only devalue gaming in general and enforce the stereotype of gaming saturated by dudebro swagfags when that is obviously not the case. Gaming should not be reduced to such a level.

What really just upsets me particularly in the Western gaming industry is seeing games that could have been even greater having to be forced to copy Call of Duty elements to sell or having the boxart be generic white guy holding a gun. See Bioshock Infinite. (Just in case you think me of as a Japanophile or anything, there is only 1 thing that pisses me off more than this and that's Japanese industry treatment of girls/women in games which I find even worse than the Western portrayal. Dragon's Crown and whatnot, waifus, etc.)

At the moment the only Western AAA title that I find enjoyable is the Halo series (though even less after Halo 4), but that doesn't mean I hate Western games in general. Just the direction that this AAA mindset is forcing other games to become. Do play lot of League of Legends if that's considered AAA.

But, I do love the Western Indie community because of not sharing that mindset of "having to be a violence filled empowerment game". Hell I love Minecraft and what it's done to the industry.

Would I buy AAA western titles even if was on a Nintendo platform? If they are guilty of the above then no I would shun them. Do I want these companies that make these kind of games to suffer? Oh god yes, I want them to learn from their sufferings and adapt. I want them to BURN and hopefully come out humbled. Something Nintendo needs to do as well. 

EDIT:And now I realize why I sound so hating of the West. My name is an inside joke and Lucina is a damn good character. 

No I do not like the hero-infused shooting waves of enemies FPSs and the GTAs. I feel that they only devalue gaming in general and enforce the stereotype of gaming saturated by dudebro swagfags when that is obviously not the case. Gaming should not be reduced to such a level.

At the moment the only Western AAA title that I find enjoyable is the Halo series 

What? The Halo series is exactly what you're talking about..

 

As to your point...yes, it's pretty exactly much what I said. You don't enjoy these games, so you don't want to see them successful. They don't 'devalue' the industry, they just take the industry in a direction you don't like, because you don't enjoy those games.

So you want to see games you don't like fail. That's it.  (apart from Halo I guess...weird to have such strong opinions on these games but then mention you do infact like one example of them). 

Edit: You mention GTA specifically...don't you often talk about how much you enjoy Sleeping Dogs? One of the most derivative GTA inspired games out there? Sorry if I have you confused with someone else. 


I am not said person. 

Let me make that Halo example more specific, what I liked about the Halo series is Halo 1 for the epic scope of the sci-fi in a game which was unparalleled at the time and a evolution of mechanics. And it made sense because you shouldered the responsibilities of being the last of your kind. I liked the idea of "isolation" and during that 2nd mission having everyone else not survive the crash being the "last survivor" rather than "empowered lone badass hero" and besides it's fantasy. I much more prefer this to having CoD "squads" set in a "realistic enviornment" for the enjoyment of mowing down wave after wave of Taliban Forces. Halo 2 for the covenant missions which offered another view on the story and a duality in method presentation. (And when I found that Halo 3 didn't have said missions I didn't play it)

Halo 4 yes is derivative of all those things I hate because suddenly you have more spartans with you which rids you of that sense of "I'm the last of my kind" and suddenly the well characterized covenant in Halo 2 are reduced to weapon fodder again. There's more but I'm feeling a bit bummed.

I hate this "Merica! thing placed in every CoD and even AssCreed 3 purely to satisfy the urges of hate filled manchildren. Especially AssCreed 3 because they could have explored the exotic, mystical, and unknown natures of the Assassin like they did in other ones with the European setting and maybe place it with Tibetian Monks/Ninjas/Tribal Africa or something, places and people well known for things similar to the "Assassin's code" and that sense of mystical unknown nature and really explore it but NOOOOOO you have to set it in the "Merican revolutionary war, place not well known for Assassins and obviously a ploy to have it sell better in America. If there was an Assassin's Creed set in let's say Three Kingdoms China? I'd be all over that thing, but obviously the audience we're so intent on satisfying isn't.

Andddddd I sound like a massive d-bag. Ah well.



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