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Could you and Jesus be friends?

Yes: he has some teachings I can relate to. 23 65.71%
 
No: I don't like his tea... 9 25.71%
 
What have others said? 3 8.57%
 
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Augen on 19 April 2013

That is hard to say. I mean I get along with most people as have agreeable disposition, but not sure what Jesus (assuming he existed) would be like given all accounts came from secondary sources after his death. If he was a man of bronze age Palestine then we'd likely have very different zeitgeist on basis of cultural shifts and centuries of social upheaval. A very tolerant person even a hundred years ago could seem old fashioned or even hateful to us now.

So, I'd have to let a person speak and have a thoughtful discussion before making a judgment as asked in this thread. My answer is, I do not know and not really sure how anyone could claim to know such a thing.



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outlawauron on 19 April 2013
dsgrue3 said:
I wouldn't disagree with most of his morals, just his punishment for such immorality.

Revelation 2:22-23

22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their[a] deeds.
23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Revelation was written by John long after Jesus' death and resurrection. While it is indeed considered inspired by God, it doesn't contain the words of Christ which is what Jay was referring to.



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outlawauron on 19 April 2013
Jay520 said:
It's hard to be friends with someone you have never met in person.

Though instead of "be friends with", I think you mean "follow his way of life." Well I'm not sure about that. Much of what Jesus advocates is what I already do regardless of his influence so I wouldn't say I'm following his way of life, but rather, we tend to follow a similar way of life. And for things he advocates that I may not necessarily agree with, I would not feel any pressure to follow it just because he said so. So no, I will follow my own way of life and if Jesus agrees, then great. If he disagrees, then...well, I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

This is rather to say because Jesus is the most influenticial person in the Western world. It's one of those things we can't say or talk because we can't see what would have happened without him.



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dsgrue3 on 19 April 2013
outlawauron said:
dsgrue3 said:
I wouldn't disagree with most of his morals, just his punishment for such immorality.

Revelation 2:22-23

22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their[a] deeds.
23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Revelation was written by John long after Jesus' death and resurrection. While it is indeed considered inspired by God, it doesn't contain the words of Christ which is what Jay was referring to.

Okay, but nothing from the New Testament was written from the time of Jesus. The first "book" is from 60 CE at best. So why are you attempting to discredit this passage when it's as accurate as the very passage in the OP.



Jay520 on 19 April 2013

Mathew 21:18

"18 Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered."

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DaRev on 19 April 2013
Augen said:
That is hard to say. I mean I get along with most people as have agreeable disposition, but not sure what Jesus (assuming he existed) would be like given all accounts came from secondary sources after his death. If he was a man of bronze age Palestine then we'd likely have very different zeitgeist on basis of cultural shifts and centuries of social upheaval. A very tolerant person even a hundred years ago could seem old fashioned or even hateful to us now.

So, I'd have to let a person speak and have a thoughtful discussion before making a judgment as asked in this thread. My answer is, I do not know and not really sure how anyone could claim to know such a thing.

Understandable, but I think you might be complicating things a bit. For example, if I said to you that we should kill all black people or kill all white people, could you be friends with me, would you need to have a discussion face to face with me to make up your mind of whether to befriend me or not? Jesus said love your enemies, do you agree with that, and based on such other teachings, could you be friends with Jesus?



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Jay520 on 19 April 2013
outlawauron said:
Jay520 said:
It's hard to be friends with someone you have never met in person.

Though instead of "be friends with", I think you mean "follow his way of life." Well I'm not sure about that. Much of what Jesus advocates is what I already do regardless of his influence so I wouldn't say I'm following his way of life, but rather, we tend to follow a similar way of life. And for things he advocates that I may not necessarily agree with, I would not feel any pressure to follow it just because he said so. So no, I will follow my own way of life and if Jesus agrees, then great. If he disagrees, then...well, I guess we'll just agree to disagree.

This is rather to say because Jesus is the most influenticial person in the Western world. It's one of those things we can't say or talk because we can't see what would have happened without him.


That is debateable so...yeah.



JakDaSnack on 19 April 2013
dsgrue3 said:
outlawauron said:
dsgrue3 said:
I wouldn't disagree with most of his morals, just his punishment for such immorality.

Revelation 2:22-23

22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their[a] deeds.
23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Revelation was written by John long after Jesus' death and resurrection. While it is indeed considered inspired by God, it doesn't contain the words of Christ which is what Jay was referring to.

Okay, but nothing from the New Testament was written from the time of Jesus. The first "book" is from 60 CE at best. So why are you attempting to discredit this passage when it's as accurate as the very passage in the OP.

I think you are trying to argue his first sentence, without reading the rest of what he said.  



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outlawauron on 19 April 2013
dsgrue3 said:
outlawauron said:
dsgrue3 said:
I wouldn't disagree with most of his morals, just his punishment for such immorality.

Revelation 2:22-23

22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their[a] deeds.
23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Revelation was written by John long after Jesus' death and resurrection. While it is indeed considered inspired by God, it doesn't contain the words of Christ which is what Jay was referring to.

Okay, but nothing from the New Testament was written from the time of Jesus. The first "book" is from 60 CE at best. So why are you attempting to discredit this passage when it's as accurate as the very passage in the OP.

Because there are texts that contain direct quotes from Jesus versus writings from apostles. That's more than point than the time it was written.



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outlawauron on 19 April 2013
JakDaSnack said:
dsgrue3 said:
outlawauron said:
dsgrue3 said:
I wouldn't disagree with most of his morals, just his punishment for such immorality.

Revelation 2:22-23

22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their[a] deeds.
23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Revelation was written by John long after Jesus' death and resurrection. While it is indeed considered inspired by God, it doesn't contain the words of Christ which is what Jay was referring to.

Okay, but nothing from the New Testament was written from the time of Jesus. The first "book" is from 60 CE at best. So why are you attempting to discredit this passage when it's as accurate as the very passage in the OP.

I think you are trying to argue his first sentence, without reading the rest of what he said.  





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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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