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tbone51 on 03 April 2013
michael_stutzer said:
oni-link said:
VGKing said:
oni-link said:

Hmmm...hopefully Muramasa gets a port for the 3DS as sales would have been much better for that on that system (nice sales on the Vita but I think a 3DS version would have made more sense). Overall good Wii U sales (nice bump for a single game) that might drop b/c of lack of any significant game releases. Vita despite price cut and influx of new software releases still can't beat the 3DS. It doesn't bode well for the system in the long term. Nintendo should really just d/c the Wii as it's pointless and should concentrate on speeding up their software development.

3rd party titles have a much better shot at selling well on non-Nintendo systems.(not always true...epic mickey, deblob, NMH etc) Especially right now on Vita since people are looking for games to play.

The Vita did beat the 3DS a couple weeks ago.(LOL...okay just like how Wii U beat PS3 this week) I guess you were taking a break on that day.

I look at the whole picture YTD, as well as LTD.  A few weeks is like winning a few seconds of the round instead of the round itself.  Well it's true that Nintendo games sell the best on their console but 3rd parties can do quite well. If they port Muramasa, LKS2, Dragon's Crown, etc it would probably sell better than it would on the Vita(at worst the same) based on numbers of 3DS owners alone.  What is the best selling Vita 3rd party ?  Now, compare it to the 3DS and I'm guessing the 3DS probably sold more! Besides, if one wants to really sell more games and be profitable they should port those to as many viable consoles as possible.  The 3DS is a very viable console compared to the Vita based on userbase.  Games like Muramasa LKS2, DC etc should be released on both handhelds to make sure that it finds their way to as many audience as possible is all.

By that logic, every Wii U release is automatically fail, since everything would sell better on PS3. Every Wii U game should be ported to PS3 to reach a bigger audience, or they shouldn't even bother with a Wii U release because unlike Vita games, they probably won't bring in any money for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, terrible numbers for the Wii U and its software compared to my expectations. My guess was 120k for Dragon Quest and about 45k for Wii U. They were nowhere near.



your the only person who thought it'll sell over 100k! Most i seen was 45k maybe 50k :P



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michael_stutzer on 03 April 2013
oni-link said:
michael_stutzer said:
oni-link said:
VGKing said:
oni-link said:

Hmmm...hopefully Muramasa gets a port for the 3DS as sales would have been much better for that on that system (nice sales on the Vita but I think a 3DS version would have made more sense). Overall good Wii U sales (nice bump for a single game) that might drop b/c of lack of any significant game releases. Vita despite price cut and influx of new software releases still can't beat the 3DS. It doesn't bode well for the system in the long term. Nintendo should really just d/c the Wii as it's pointless and should concentrate on speeding up their software development.

3rd party titles have a much better shot at selling well on non-Nintendo systems.(not always true...epic mickey, deblob, NMH etc) Especially right now on Vita since people are looking for games to play.

The Vita did beat the 3DS a couple weeks ago.(LOL...okay just like how Wii U beat PS3 this week) I guess you were taking a break on that day.

I look at the whole picture YTD, as well as LTD.  A few weeks is like winning a few seconds of the round instead of the round itself.  Well it's true that Nintendo games sell the best on their console but 3rd parties can do quite well. If they port Muramasa, LKS2, Dragon's Crown, etc it would probably sell better than it would on the Vita(at worst the same) based on numbers of 3DS owners alone.  What is the best selling Vita 3rd party ?  Now, compare it to the 3DS and I'm guessing the 3DS probably sold more! Besides, if one wants to really sell more games and be profitable they should port those to as many viable consoles as possible.  The 3DS is a very viable console compared to the Vita based on userbase.  Games like Muramasa LKS2, DC etc should be released on both handhelds to make sure that it finds their way to as many audience as possible is all.

By that logic, every Wii U release is automatically fail, since everything would sell better on PS3. Every Wii U game should be ported to PS3 to reach a bigger audience, or they shouldn't even bother with a Wii U release because unlike Vita games, they probably won't bring in any money for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, terrible numbers for the Wii U and its software compared to my expectations. My guess was 120k for Dragon Quest and about 45k for Wii U. They were nowhere near.

*sigh* I never said that Muramasa sales were a failure.(in fact I said they were great) What  I said was it made sense to have some of these games go multiplat in order for the companies to get some sort of return on their investment.(plus I want to get a chance to play these games as well on my 3DS)  Anyways, if the Wii U numbers are terrible to you I'd hate to ask you what you thought of Vita sales back then. While it didn't really sell to 3DS levels, it still manage to outsell the PS3 this week.  Not a bad feat considering that the system is essentially barren of any NEW EXCLUSIVE SOFTWARE for the last 3-4 months now!!!

I don't remember you saying Resident Evil Revelations should have been a multiplatform title from the beginning ( for Vita and 3DS) to reach a bigger audience ( if you said that sorry, I missed it). Muramasa is kind of a strange title to beg for a multiplatform release. I mean, it is not like it was setting the charts on fire when it was released on Wii.

By the way, Wii U had exclusive software this week, two of them in fact. PS3 was the one with no new releases (if there was one, it was insignificant). 



Marucha on 03 April 2013

Poor Wii! Doomed!!! @ 1,858 sales



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michael_stutzer on 03 April 2013
tbone51 said:
michael_stutzer said:

By that logic, every Wii U release is automatically fail, since everything would sell better on PS3. Every Wii U game should be ported to PS3 to reach a bigger audience, or they shouldn't even bother with a Wii U release because unlike Vita games, they probably won't bring in any money for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, terrible numbers for the Wii U and its software compared to my expectations. My guess was 120k for Dragon Quest and about 45k for Wii U. They were nowhere near.

 

your the only person who thought it'll sell over 100k! Most i seen was 45k maybe 50k :P

I like to be optimistic when it comes to guessing. Wii U numbers actually are not bad, though the software sales are really bad. I mean it is DQ.



oni-link on 03 April 2013
michael_stutzer said:
oni-link said:
michael_stutzer said:
oni-link said:
VGKing said:
oni-link said:

Hmmm...hopefully Muramasa gets a port for the 3DS as sales would have been much better for that on that system (nice sales on the Vita but I think a 3DS version would have made more sense). Overall good Wii U sales (nice bump for a single game) that might drop b/c of lack of any significant game releases. Vita despite price cut and influx of new software releases still can't beat the 3DS. It doesn't bode well for the system in the long term. Nintendo should really just d/c the Wii as it's pointless and should concentrate on speeding up their software development.

3rd party titles have a much better shot at selling well on non-Nintendo systems.(not always true...epic mickey, deblob, NMH etc) Especially right now on Vita since people are looking for games to play.

The Vita did beat the 3DS a couple weeks ago.(LOL...okay just like how Wii U beat PS3 this week) I guess you were taking a break on that day.

I look at the whole picture YTD, as well as LTD.  A few weeks is like winning a few seconds of the round instead of the round itself.  Well it's true that Nintendo games sell the best on their console but 3rd parties can do quite well. If they port Muramasa, LKS2, Dragon's Crown, etc it would probably sell better than it would on the Vita(at worst the same) based on numbers of 3DS owners alone.  What is the best selling Vita 3rd party ?  Now, compare it to the 3DS and I'm guessing the 3DS probably sold more! Besides, if one wants to really sell more games and be profitable they should port those to as many viable consoles as possible.  The 3DS is a very viable console compared to the Vita based on userbase.  Games like Muramasa LKS2, DC etc should be released on both handhelds to make sure that it finds their way to as many audience as possible is all.

By that logic, every Wii U release is automatically fail, since everything would sell better on PS3. Every Wii U game should be ported to PS3 to reach a bigger audience, or they shouldn't even bother with a Wii U release because unlike Vita games, they probably won't bring in any money for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, terrible numbers for the Wii U and its software compared to my expectations. My guess was 120k for Dragon Quest and about 45k for Wii U. They were nowhere near.

*sigh* I never said that Muramasa sales were a failure.(in fact I said they were great) What  I said was it made sense to have some of these games go multiplat in order for the companies to get some sort of return on their investment.(plus I want to get a chance to play these games as well on my 3DS)  Anyways, if the Wii U numbers are terrible to you I'd hate to ask you what you thought of Vita sales back then. While it didn't really sell to 3DS levels, it still manage to outsell the PS3 this week.  Not a bad feat considering that the system is essentially barren of any NEW EXCLUSIVE SOFTWARE for the last 3-4 months now!!!

I don't remember you saying Resident Evil Revelations should have been a multiplatform title from the beginning ( for Vita and 3DS) to reach a bigger audience ( if you said that sorry, I missed it). Muramasa is kind of a strange title to beg for a multiplatform release. I mean, it is not like it was setting the charts on fire when it was released on Wii.

By the way, Wii U had exclusive software this week, two of them in fact. PS3 was the one with no new releases (if there was one, it was insignificant). 

PS3 has a deeper library,  cheaper AAA exclusive games,  more affordable hardware, a history of being a stronger brand (PS name for home console is more popular in Japan) than Nintendo in that country, etc.  The Wii U is much more expensive, no EXCLUSIVE games released since launch, overall more expensive software, and bad/non-existent marketing at the moment.  Those 2 Wii U games are a port of a Wii game and a mini-game compilation; hardly system sellers by any notion.  I don't mind RE:R going multi-plat if Capcom wanted it to be.  What I do mind is them announcing exclusives and backing out on them.  As far as I'm concerned most Vita games were not announced exclusive therefore can be ported over to greener pasteurs.  Muramasa doesn't interest me as much but LKS2 does.  But to each their own I guess.



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tbone51 on 03 April 2013
michael_stutzer said:
tbone51 said:
michael_stutzer said:

By that logic, every Wii U release is automatically fail, since everything would sell better on PS3. Every Wii U game should be ported to PS3 to reach a bigger audience, or they shouldn't even bother with a Wii U release because unlike Vita games, they probably won't bring in any money for the foreseeable future.

Anyway, terrible numbers for the Wii U and its software compared to my expectations. My guess was 120k for Dragon Quest and about 45k for Wii U. They were nowhere near.

 

your the only person who thought it'll sell over 100k! Most i seen was 45k maybe 50k :P

I like to be optimistic when it comes to guessing. Wii U numbers actually are not bad, though the software sales are really bad. I mean it is DQ.



if the wii version never came out months ago then yes, but i think people rather buy the wii version, thats wat happen! If there was no wii version this game should of had 90-120k FW! Hopefully pokemon rumble U might justify it O.o (wild card)



noname2200 on 03 April 2013
VGKing said:

3rd party titles have a much better shot at selling well on non-Nintendo systems. Especially right now on Vita since people are looking for games to play.

Also, up is down and square is round.



VGKing on 03 April 2013
oni-link said:
VGKing said:
oni-link said:
VGKing said:
oni-link said:

Hmmm...hopefully Muramasa gets a port for the 3DS as sales would have been much better for that on that system (nice sales on the Vita but I think a 3DS version would have made more sense). Overall good Wii U sales (nice bump for a single game) that might drop b/c of lack of any significant game releases. Vita despite price cut and influx of new software releases still can't beat the 3DS. It doesn't bode well for the system in the long term. Nintendo should really just d/c the Wii as it's pointless and should concentrate on speeding up their software development.

3rd party titles have a much better shot at selling well on non-Nintendo systems.(not always true...epic mickey, deblob, NMH etc) Especially right now on Vita since people are looking for games to play.

The Vita did beat the 3DS a couple weeks ago.(LOL...okay just like how Wii U beat PS3 this week) I guess you were taking a break on that day.

I look at the whole picture YTD, as well as LTD.  A few weeks is like winning a few seconds of the round instead of the round itself.  Well it's true that Nintendo games sell the best on their console but 3rd parties can do quite well. If they port Muramasa, LKS2, Dragon's Crown, etc it would probably sell better than it would on the Vita(at worst the same) based on numbers of 3DS owners alone.  What is the best selling Vita 3rd party ?  Now, compare it to the 3DS and I'm guessing the 3DS probably sold more! Besides, if one wants to really sell more games and be profitable they should port those to as many viable consoles as possible.  The 3DS is a very viable console compared to the Vita based on userbase.  Games like Muramasa LKS2, DC etc should be released on both handhelds to make sure that it finds their way to as many audience as possible is all.

So you really expected Vita to outsell the 3DS YTD after the price cut? I doubt that's what you thought, not after how horribly Vita has been selling for the past year. What exactly is your agenda here?

Sure, it would be nice if all games were multi-platform but there will be exclusives for reasons we may never know. Complaining about a game being a Vita exclusive and how it would have sold much better on 3DS is borderline trolling, even if its in any way true. So if you really find this game so interesting, maybe you should consider buying a Vita instead of complaing that its not on your platform of choice. Just a thought.

Well with all the hype about the price cut and upcoming games; it sounded like the Vita will continously overtake the 3DS and continue to stay on top for the rest of the year.  Well IMHO, the Vita is such a monstrosity as a handheld (it's huge) that it doesn't really suit my taste.  I have an original 3DS and GS3 phone, so there is only so much gadgets I want to lug around.  Thus the reason for me hoping that some of these games get ported over to the 3DS.( there is really no point keeping them exclusive to the Vita anyways)  I'm pretty sure it would find a decent audience with some of the 3DS owners.  Besides, you were the one who brought up that these games sell better on the Vita than it would on the 3DS. Just giving you a rebuttal that it would do just as well if not better on the 3DS I believe.

LOLOLOL! HAHAHA. Are you being serious here? Not even the most optimistic Sony fans even thought something like this. 

If you really thought that....let me say one thing........you need to get your expectations in check.



Olivernintentoal on 03 April 2013

well...pretty bad game sales, but at least hardware sales doubled



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NoCtiS_NoX on 03 April 2013

Ok, since Turkish posted the numbers as well for this week and with his thread getting locked and getting banned because of that.

It's highly likely that he will try to post the numbers for next week. I am ok with that but I will fight for my right to post the weekly Japan numbers so if the MODS allows it then expect a dual threads weekly because I am pretty stubborn even if he beats me twice in a row. I will keep on posting it until I win.

 

Famitsu Sales: Week 13, 2013 (Mar 25 - Mar 31) 

 

01./01. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 102.445 / 403.525 (-66%)

02./00. [PSP] Fate/Extra CCC # <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥6.279) - 71.982 / NEW 

03./05. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 60.844 / 3.339.623 (+0%)

04./02. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥8.190) - 55.830 / 324.865 (-79%)

05./00. [PSV] Muramasa: The Demon Blade <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥4.980) - 39.248 / NEW 

06./00. [PSP] Dungeon Travelers 2: Ouritsu Tokoshan to Mamono no Fuuin # <RPG> (Aqua Plus) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 37.278 / NEW 

07./00. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980) - 36.454 / NEW 

08./03. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 25.420 / 134.998 (-77%)

09./00. [WIU] Game & Wario <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.03.28} (¥4.935) - 23.995 / NEW 

10./04. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980) - 21.447 / 102.914 (-74%)

11./00. [PSV] Sei Madou Monogatari # <RPG> (Compile Heart) {2013.03.28} (¥7.140) - 16.438 / NEW 

12./06. [PSV] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140) - 15.696 / 70.205 (-71%)

13./00. [WII] PreCure All-Stars: Zenin Shuugou Let's Dance! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 14.846 / NEW 

14./09. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.14} (¥6.980) - 14.190 / 177.611 (-55%)

15./00. [PS2] Final Fantasy XI: Seekers of Adoulin <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.27} (¥3.980) - 11.531 / NEW 

16./22. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 10.685 / 142.062 (+20%)

17./16. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980) - 10.188 / 156.186 (-25%)

18./00. [PSP] Megpoid the Music # <ACT> (ParaPhray) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 10.087 / NEW 

19./13. [3DS] Super Robot Wars UX # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥7.140) - 9.947 / 149.667 (-48%)

20./14. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280) - 9.774 / 153.230 (-31%)

21./23. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 9.589 / 1.995.947 (+9%)

22./07. [PS3] Disgaea D2: A Brighter Darkness # <SLG> (Nippon Ichi Software) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140) - 9.195 / 63.009 (-83%)

23./08. [3DS] Pretty Rhythm: My Deco Rainbow Wedding <ACT> (Takara Tomy) {2013.03.20} (¥6.279) - 8.099 / 41.408 (-76%)

24./00. [PSP] Katen no Hana # <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.03.28} (¥6.090) - 7.790 / NEW 

25./19. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Legacy of Civilization A <ADV> (Level 5) {2013.02.28} (¥5.500) - 7.600 / 196.761 (-27%)

26./20. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090) - 7.326 / 1.186.571 (-27%)

27./00. [PSP] Starry Sky: After Summer Portable # <ADV> (Honeybee) {2013.03.28} (¥3.129) - 7.290 / NEW 

28./17. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} (¥7.560) - 7.159 / 302.707 (-36%)

29./00. [PSP] Gaku Ou: The Royal Seven Stars + Meteor # <ADV> (Alchemist) {2013.03.28} (¥7.140) - 6.544 / NEW 

30./29. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 5.947 / 2.001.246 (+18%)

 

Top 30 

 

3DS - 9

PSP - 8

PS3 - 5

PSV - 4

WIU - 2

PS2 - 1

WII - 1

Edited the OP with this.