curl-6 said:
Mensrea said:
If your going to count titles like excitetruck....
NSMBWii is really not better than anything, but I guess I'll give it to you?
DKCR is a fantastic game, that is a win for the Wii.
Xenoblade didn't go against nothing. Baten Kaitos is a fantastic game. Gamecube had more JRPG's, just not all of them were first party.
Wii Twilight Princess is better how? I can press a button in the gamecube edition, but I have to waggle my arm to do a sword swing that doesn't register half the time? It's a terrible Zelda game anyway, but regardless that point is moot.
Skyward Sword>Wind Waker????! No, just no. Skyward Sword is an atrocitiy plain and simple. Most fans agree. If you liked it fine, but it's generally considered the worst 3D Zelda. Wind Waker is better in just about every way.
You can't count Metroid Prime trilogy. It is 2 gamecube games. It's not a new first party offering. Compare the games that were made for their respective systems. Cube had 2 of the top 3 metroid games of all time. It wins easily.
Eternal Darkness>>>___________
How is MKWii better than double dash? Frankly I call that a was because Mario Kart is pretty much good regardless of platform.
Wii Sports Resort is casual garbage, to even bring that up is a point for the cube.
The starfox games aren't bad enough to subtract points for the system. Some decent games are better than no games at all.
You failed to even mention pikmin.
Luigi's Mansion>_____
you failed to mention wave race
Wave Race+F-Zero>>Excitetrucks
It's really a pretty easy choice...
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No GCN JRPG is as good as Xeoblade though.
TP Wii had faster and more efficient aiming thanks to the pointer, and swinging the remote felt more fun than a button tap. Widescreen too.
Wind Waker is an awful Zelda; half-baked dungeons, and suicide-inducing sailing. Skyward Sword's better level/puzzle designs and 1:1 sword control give it an easy win.
MKWii is better than DD because it has better handling, Karts no longer control like friggin' dune buggies.
Wii Sports Resort is a very good game, it was lots of fun and groundbreaking in its 1:1 motion control.
And the GCN Starfox games weren't decent, they were absolute garbage.
F Zero GX, Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime were the only GCN first party games that lived up to Nintendo's usual sky-high standards, while the Wii had the better version of Prime and TP, along with Galaxy 1 & 2, Metroid Prime 3, Skyward Sword, Donkey Kong Country, and Xenoblade. Even if you discount the multiplats between them that's 6 masterpieces on Wii to 3 on GCN.
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If you are going to disregard Wind Waker, then I'm distregarding Skyward Sword. In no way is SS better than WW. It's linear, has forced motion controls that add nothing, is loaded to the gills with filler, is uglier than WW, has no good sidequests, and a weak story.
WW combat is better thanks to parry system. SO much to explore, and so much to explore that is completely optional. Excellent sidequests. A simple, yet good story with the best gannondorf in the series. To top it all off, it's the best looking Zelda in the series. The dungeons get the slight edge in SS, but really it's not by a wide margin. They are all excellent. Also, lol Fi ruined the game in a lot of ways. No annoying guide in WW.
As far as JRPG's god, Baten Kaitos is about as good of a game as Xenoblade, sure it's not quite there, but it's right up there. You can't just discredit it. Cube also has a lot more JRPG's, and they are all pretty damn good.
TP swinging was not more fun than a button tap at all. It was fun for five minutes, but it was a gimmick that I wished I could have turned off.
Better handling? I didn't notice that at all. That is a wash like I said before.
Wii sports resort is not a really good game. It's casual garbage. I played all the minigames once, and then put it down. It merely used 1:1 motion, it's not like it used it in a way that benefitted fun gameplay. It was a glorified tech demo.
I wouldn't say absolute garbage, but alright.
So let's count the "Masterpieces"
GCN has: Metroid Prime 1, Metroid Prime 2, Eternal Darkness, F-Zero GX, Wind Waker, Pikmin 2,
Wii has: Super Mario Galaxy 1+2 Xenoblade and Donkey Kong Country and I guess we'll count these even though I think they suck Metroid Prime 3, Skyward Sword
So am I missing something here? Cube had just as many "masterpieces", and they were IMO much higher quality.