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AnthonyW86 on 27 March 2013
cusman said:
All I saw in the 17 minutes of Battlefield 4 gameplay is scripted move and shoot gameplay starting with typical military shooter non-sense story telling format of 13 minutes earlier.

Now in that 13 minutes here is what happened
* 3/4 team people meet up in a room and jibber jabber
* Remove window boards to help 4th team mate join up as well, clearly in an Urban setting, clearly day time
* Travel to Jungle on foot
* Travel to Industrial area near the coast emerging from forest, maybe evening, but certainly not sunset
* Lots of fire fighting, some menial vehicle use, going up a building, helicopter sequence with helicopter ally
* Enemy Helicopter shows up tries to shoot at you from behind the chopper that is trying to rescue you instead of just shooting that rescue chopper.
* Doesn't matter either way, in trying to kill you they managed to kill the building instead so it comes crashing down. Rescue chopper also dies.
* You wake up, it's night time, cut a fallen soldiers leg Nikita style, then driving coastal highway. Is it early morning sunrise now?
* Enemy chopper shows up again, this time you take it out using your grenade gun thingy
* Then your car crashes in water and loop is complete.

So basically F-U TIME

Seriously? Very nice graphics and I really liked the ocean waves splashing water ending up on car wind shield while driving. But the rest of the games plot, story, character, etc type stuff is just worthless.

Why can't they use all that technology to make a game that I might actually care about?

I don't think yo got the point, the game might not appeal to you personally(i love Battlefield 1942 but the rest didn't appeeal to me either) but Nintendo needs these games for the Wii-U to appeal to a large crowd. Basically if they get a dumbed down or delayed version of the next Call of Duty they will be missing out on a 10m/15m consumer group.(if they ever hade a chance to appeal to them at all).



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Cobretti2 on 27 March 2013
IsawYoshi said:
Cobretti2 said:
teigaga said:
Mnementh said:
Otakumegane said:

Man the EA support for Wii U is almost as bad as the Capcom support for the Vita.

Now you're overexaggerating. WiiU got NFS and that is a decent port.

Yeah and Vita got street fighter and marvel....

Didn't the Wii U also get Fifa? they are literally equal.

well i dont think you can call fifa a game on Wii U, rebadged FIFA 2012  to FIFA2013 that is hwo bad this port is.

NFS on the other hand was probably already 99% finished so they let it go.


As for the topic at hand, no one is surpised since EA prtty much said no more "unprecident support"

Also no surpise Turkish posted this thread.

Wasn't Crysis 3 also pretty much done on the Wii U when EA canclled it?

Good point, I am not sure to be honest.



 

 

Netyaroze on 27 March 2013
cusman said:
All I saw in the 17 minutes of Battlefield 4 gameplay is scripted move and shoot gameplay starting with typical military shooter non-sense story telling format of 13 minutes earlier.

Now in that 13 minutes here is what happened
* 3/4 team people meet up in a room and jibber jabber
* Remove window boards to help 4th team mate join up as well, clearly in an Urban setting, clearly day time
* Travel to Jungle on foot
* Travel to Industrial area near the coast emerging from forest, maybe evening, but certainly not sunset
* Lots of fire fighting, some menial vehicle use, going up a building, helicopter sequence with helicopter ally
* Enemy Helicopter shows up tries to shoot at you from behind the chopper that is trying to rescue you instead of just shooting that rescue chopper.
* Doesn't matter either way, in trying to kill you they managed to kill the building instead so it comes crashing down. Rescue chopper also dies.
* You wake up, it's night time, cut a fallen soldiers leg Nikita style, then driving coastal highway. Is it early morning sunrise now?
* Enemy chopper shows up again, this time you take it out using your grenade gun thingy
* Then your car crashes in water and loop is complete.

So basically F-U TIME

Seriously? Very nice graphics and I really liked the ocean waves splashing water ending up on car wind shield while driving. But the rest of the games plot, story, character, etc type stuff is just worthless.

Why can't they use all that technology to make a game that I might actually care about?

 

The campaign is not important at all. Battlefield didn't even have a Campaign when it first released. It was added alot later for the Cod crowd but it really plays no role. If you don't play Battlefield for the MP better skip it since it sucks as a SP game. 

Plot Story and Characters are entirely meaningless, if you buy Battlefield for that you will be dissapointed. I see Campaign more like a prolonged Tutorial and whatever happens there is just to get used to the controls weapons and (maybe) some of the vehicles thats it. I play BF since BF 1942 (not all of them) and I don't even remember the plot or a character name from any campaign. All I remember from BC 2 Campaign for example is the scene where you snipe guys in the rain and time it with the thunder in order to not alarm anyone. Thats it. BF3 Campaign I never even played. And I don't intend to play BF 4 Campaign longer than 30 minutes. In contrast I remember the whole story in Bioshock and I play the games just for SP.

Its rare that a shooter gets SP and MP right, like Halo for example. 

BF is a MP franchise.

 



Metallicube on 27 March 2013

Haha, it's so funny to hear the developers trying to come up with good excuses for skipping out on Wii U, since they can no longer use the "lack of hardware power" excuse they used for the Wii.

Just once I'd like a developer to just come right out and say the real reason they chose to skip out. Something like "we just aren't talented enough to compete with Nintendo's games," or "we're just too lazy."



Mr Khan on 27 March 2013
Kresnik said:
Well, for all the deflection and "well, I wasn't going to buy this anyway" attitude in here, I'm sorry to hear this for Wii-U owners who were hoping to get this, and just for the console in general. Sure, it wouldn't have been a major coup to get it, but it's just one of those things that would've made perception of the console a little better... maybe convinced a few people to get it now rather than wait for the Nintendo games they like.

If we take out tinfoil hats off for a minute (even though there's clearly something going on - or not, in this case - between Nintendo & EA), the sales of Blops 2 on Wii-U would've been a big red flag to this project.

I wonder what difference a new man at the helm of EA will make. Probably none, I suppose.

Signs point to the new man at EA being bound to make things "worse." Lots of online pass, paid DLC stuffs (though what really cooked Ricitiello was probably just The Old Republic, so it might be as simple as "No more MMOs.")



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kupomogli on 27 March 2013
Metallicube said:

Haha, it's so funny to hear the developers trying to come up with good excuses for skipping out on Wii U, since they can no longer use the "lack of hardware power" excuse they used for the Wii.

Just once I'd like a developer to just come right out and say the real reason they chose to skip out. Something like "we just aren't talented enough to compete with Nintendo's games," or "we're just too lazy."

With Frostbite 2 using the PS3 and 360 harddrive to stream higher resolution textures than before to make a much more  graphical game, and the fact that every Wii U owner doesn't have a sufficient amount of storage space to utilize this feature because Nintendo decided not to include a hard drive, then it's something the Wii U can't do.  While it's not about the power, it's lacking an essential piece of equipment.  So technically it is all about power, if you take "power" as all surrounding parts that the console is built on.  Because in this specific scenario, the lack of a hard drive is the Wii U's bottleneck.



Captain_Tom on 27 March 2013

Did anyone think it would come to the Wii U?  Two months ago I said BF4 will not come to the Wii U because:

1) Nintendo has terrible online support

2) The Wii U can not support the multi GB updates BF games get.

3) They have no reason to when PS360 will run it and already have a fan base.



PureDante on 27 March 2013

Nintendo probably didn't pressure EA enough. It's clearly not in their interest to have such hardcore games on their platform.



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

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RazorDragon on 27 March 2013

Multiplats which have a PC version shouldn't be really played on consoles. I couldn't care less about these games not coming to Wii U since I have a capable PC, consoles for me are for exclusive games only.



bananaking21 on 27 March 2013
Metallicube said:

Haha, it's so funny to hear the developers trying to come up with good excuses for skipping out on Wii U, since they can no longer use the "lack of hardware power" excuse they used for the Wii.

Just once I'd like a developer to just come right out and say the real reason they chose to skip out. Something like "we just aren't talented enough to compete with Nintendo's games," or "we're just too lazy."


its so funny to hear fans come out and blindly say that every 3rd party game that doesnt come to nintendo consoles suck compared to nintendo games. most  nintendo fans act like 3rd party games and other exclusives on other consoles are way inferior to all nintendo games just because nintendo didnt make them. they even claim that major aspects of games are not important becausing they are so severely lacking with all nintendo games, aspects like advanced graphics, story, technological advancments (DOT system in uncharted for example) and story telling among others.

nintendo has never, and if they keep creating games like they do now, will never, make games amazing games like red dead redemption, halo, bioshock, GTA, mass effect, battlefield, metal gear, uncharted or god of war to name a few. keep downplaying everything thats not nintendo and keep dreaming them as the amazing "so much better than anyone else" developers that you think they are. but just know who ever does this, i feel bad for, because boy are they mising out on a lot of awesome games