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I'm a huge Nintendo fan and Nintendo hasn't sold me a Wii U yet.

Of course, that's because I was burned for buying a 3DS at launch and I don't want to make a similar mistake.



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It'll be nice revisiting these doom theards next year.



I think my sales targets are quite realistic given the software that's coming. It's sold around 3m already and I can't see it doing too badly during the 8 months between now and November. Should do 3m in 8 months quite comfortably, if not more. And sales will explode when a 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 hit the shop shelves before Black Friday, even without a price cut.

The Wii U's main two problems are lack of new software for the last two months and shite marketing. And both of those issues I'm sure will be dealt with between now and the end of the year, we already know what software's on the way and that's before any E3 Megatons are dropped.



Netyaroze said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Can someone please answer me this.....When the PS4/720 sells 1/2 - 2/3 of what the WiiU has in the same time frame, will they be doomed as well??? Just wondering.


Lol are you serious ? If PS4/720 sold 50% to 30% of what Wii U sold up until now while selling on all 3 markets it would be an disaster of epic proportions. A failure that would indicate the market for consoles has vanished. Thats 1-1.5 Million Units in 6! Months thats like first week for Wii or PS2 (All 3 markets combined). The console age would be over.

Combined this gens market bought 250 Million Consoles. Wii U is obviously not filling the gap that Wii, or PS2 before that, left so it must be done by Sony or MS or both together. Or the market has shrunk considerably. Doom Threads would dominate forums and websites everywhere, games would be cancelled. Developer would start to panic and shift their focus to mobile/pc. This would be literally the death of the console market its not like PS3/360 haven't seen massive declines by now.

If PS4/720 sell 1.5 Million each within their first 6 months they are on the track to sell 5-25 Million LTD each, very very unlikely. If they sell that combined.. Thats like impossible. Wii U sells 25-30k/week that would mean PS4/720 selling 7-15k per week worldwide. Combined or each wouldn't even matter.

 

PS3 360 have an active fanbase which likely will all move to PS4/720 eventually. Wii died a long time ago. 

First off, please make sure your math is accurrate before commenting. 1/2-2/3 is 50% to 66%, not 50%-30%. Therefore that would be the equivalent of 1.75-2.3 million units shipped within 4 months (assuming Wii U hits at least 3.5 million shipped by months end). I do not forsee PS4 and 720 being able to push the same amount of console during the holiday season as Wii U but they will stabilize better than Wii U has which is why I put a high end of 66%.

The 360 and PS3 have just really began to pick up pace in the past few years which is why the WiiU was not able to meet Big N's expectations sales wise (cheaper consoles + substantial game library with AAA titles still releasing throught the year) and if you do not beleive that this will not affect the PS4/ 720 initially either then your dreaming in technicolour. A $400-$500 console plus limited game library is not going to sell substantialy in today's market at the initial launch.

Let's also not forget that the Wii U will have a worldwide price cut and a much better library when each system releases.




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Max King of the Wild said:

Naw, nintendo didn't gain that many overly estatic fans that will buy anything Nintendo because of the Wii. They will sell more than the Game Cube but that doesn't mean the hardest of the hard nintendo fans increased much. It just means they are doing a better job of attracting the people that don't have loyalty


I agree, if anything they have lost fans because of the Wii. At least for me Nintendo has gone from tied for first console choice to secondary console only for first party games, and that was all because of the Wii. I haven't even got the Wii U yet, not sure if it is worth it right now. All this was because they wanted to be the latest fad product, rather than keep the base happy.



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snowdog said:
I think my sales targets are quite realistic given the software that's coming. It's sold around 3m already and I can't see it doing too badly during the 8 months between now and November. Should do 3m in 8 months quite comfortably, if not more. And sales will explode when a 3D Mario and Mario Kart 8 hit the shop shelves before Black Friday, even without a price cut.

The Wii U's main two problems are lack of new software for the last two months and shite marketing. And both of those issues I'm sure will be dealt with between now and the end of the year, we already know what software's on the way and that's before any E3 Megatons are dropped.



Ps3 shipped 2 million in the same time frame and the Wii U is selling less than the Ps3 has this year already. Wii U will ship less than 2 million and you expect it to sell 3? You might be right if Nintendo discontinues it for some stupid reason and it goes on a fire salee at 200$ a piece



I actually think the 720/PS4 launch windows will be pretty damn strong.

Star Wars 1313
Destiny
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4
Battlefield 4
Watch Dogs
FIFA 2014
Madden NFL 25

Are likely in the first 4-6 months, and those EA sports games do count big time to the XBox/PS audience (sorry Nintendo fans).

That's without taking into account any Sony/MS exclusives which will almost certainly be there for launch too.



You've also got to consider that the PS4 and 720 are both likely to have their CPUs and GPUs on a 32nm or, more likely, a 28nm process...meaning there's going to be a lot of wasted silicone and the consoles will be supply constrained as a result.



Max King of the Wild said:

Naw, nintendo didn't gain that many overly estatic fans that will buy anything Nintendo because of the Wii. They will sell more than the Game Cube but that doesn't mean the hardest of the hard nintendo fans increased much. It just means they are doing a better job of attracting the people that don't have loyalty

I think Nintendo even lost many Fans with the Wii. Many hardcore players who grew up with Nintendo lost interest completely (me included) while others were disappointed by the weak support of the system at the end of its life cycle. Casual Gamers don't tend to prefer a specific company, they will just get the next hot thing, no matter what company brings it. So in the end, I think Nintendo even lost some of its Fanbase and that's why I thinkg the Wii U will sell even worse than Gamecube. It's more expensive, there is not a single must-have title in sight, the hardware is completely outdated and nobody really cares about the console. With the Gamecube, there was at least some hype, even if it was overshadowed by the allmighty PS2. But there is no hype whatsoever for poor Wii U. Hell, even the 7-year old PS3 has more hype at this very moment. The Wii U is what the Wii should have been in the first place, just without that tablet controller. That thing was a bad idea anyway. It's expensive, it's bulky, it's range is limited and it is outdated. Everybody nowadays got a smartphone or a tablet, when those people are introduced to the Wii Us single touch, resistive display they will just laugh their asses off and get an iPad Mini or something for the same money. Also, the display of that thing is really bad. The resoultion is straight from the mid 90s and the image quality also lacks in so many ways. You just can't sell something like that for 300 dollars when customers are used to much higher quality from other devices. It's ridiculous. 

I'll have to agree with the OP, the Wii U is done. No chance it will pull a 3DS, it will die a horribly, slow death. We won't see any significant game releases, only Nintendo titles with the typical droughts in betwenn. So settle yourself to wait 6 to 12 months again once some First Party title releases. 



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:

Let's also not forget that the Wii U will have a worldwide price cut and a much better library when each system releases.


This isn't necessarily true. If the PS4 has Gaikai running and 720 has backwards compatibilty then they might be able to leverage that.



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