holy crap, what happened to Microsoft, talk about a complete turn around, thank god sony is still focused on what i want in a console.

Well I haven't bought any used PC games for a while but I bought Civ V and Shogun at retail when they launched and then ended up selling them (along with my Steam account since I have no computer that can run those games) to my cousin. Last PC game I bought used was the Lord of the Rings Battle for Middle Earth II (with the expansion game). But now that I think about it I'm pretty sure Shogun was tied in with Steam. But I think Civ V can be sold used.

I can see the PC going that route because PC games are going mostly digital (and when console games go that way and they can maintain cheaper prices then I am all for that). But with the next generation of consoles, we just simply aren't ready for that situation for consoles so I really doubt the 360 will be exactly like the PC as far as no used games.

I read somewhere that the CD key would be encoded on the disk. So once you put a disk in the console, it will read it then link to your account. So it'll work pretty much like Steam. Put in a disk, activate game. Install. Now the game is linked to your account, it will not be usable outside of your personal account. Except now the disk is a coaster for everyone but you.

That would make sense considering the mandatory installs but I'm not going to jump to conclusions considering these are all just rumors (I certainly hope that's not true).

The only way I'd be fine with that is if they had digital game sales much like Steam. If they went that route I'd be perfectly fine with it.

But the doc not even mentioned that

Hmm,no data on how old this is, read "This documentation is preliminary and is subject to change" anf why didn't they click on the three other links about the specs and kits-hardware?

I know that but it would make sense with the mandatory installs.

However, with that said these are all rumors so I'll wait until I actually see Microsofts reveal before I do a final judgement.

Mandatory install never means no used games,they even just said "during gameplay, games will not use content from optical disc",not it doesn't need to check your disc before start the game(not everyone only play one game in one day,right?)

Well,let's say it really have a cd-key thing,but publisher can still sell something like game pass(like online pass) on marketplace,that means you can still buy used games but you also need buy a game pass.

It may also mean used game price will drop a lot btw.

I know that too. Like I said; rumors and all that snaz.

They should allow streaming of games from an optical disc along with hard drive installs as accessing them both in tandem is faster than either single option.
For example they could stream all the texture data from disc whilst the rest of the game data is streamed from the hard drive.
Mind you, I would like developers to have the power to choose how they would like to do it, rather than them being dictated to, more options to squeeze more horse power out of a machine is never a bad thing.