Why are they so pissed with the USA ?
Is the US drilling oil there or something ?
Why are they so pissed with the USA ?
Is the US drilling oil there or something ?
Even if Nordkorea decides to nuke the US. And manages to drop something on US Soil. USA wouldn't nuke North Korea. They would simply start a large scale attack and take apart the whole country with conventional means. China would probably sit back and do nothing except insist that afterwards they need to play a big role in rebuilding it. Maybe China would invade North Korea before the USA to "help" them in order to prevent too much US Influence.
FrancisNobleman said: Why are they so pissed with the USA ? Is the US drilling oil there or something ? |
It's cool to hate the US.
Look, we have someone in this thread talking about how the US is a policed state and yadda yadda yet he lives across the atlantic ocean and has no clue.
Everyone hates us, yet when disaster strikes them they want us to come help out.
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Every time Kim opens his mouth people take him seriously. He is getting the exact response he is after. He will never attack the US as it is just plain dumb and as "evil" as he is I doubt he is dumb.
He is trying to goad the US, maybe into doing something stupid like spending trillions of dollars they don't have in sending more weapons and troops to the area. Pretty clever if you ask me. get them even further in the red.
Maybe he is even trying to provoke them into attacking first so that he gains the moral high ground.
At the same time the arrogance of some American people in their military and weapons brings to mind the other "invincible" nations of history that met their ends believing in their invincibility.
Winning a nuclear war after an exchange is the most worthless of victories. Even if the other side got off a handful of nukes over US cities and America nuked them off the map. Living in a radiation zone is shit for anyone let alone the economy. Might as well pack up and leave. The real winners will be the nations not involved and far away from the whole mess.
Then again, I seriously doubt N.Kore currently have the tech to nuke American without the missile being shot down. Only Russia have the thousands of nukes to make any defense system useless... maybe China as they play down their nuke numbers and military spending.
JayWood2010 said:
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I am sorry but your clearly fell for the propaganda shit dude :) Invading a country that NEVER DECLARED WAR is not good at all. If you think otherwhise I am really sorry for you. You also did what they want you to do You take US-government critic and assume its "I hate america". Why would I dont like America?
I play American games, I watch American movies, I listen to American music. I speak English because of AMERICA (as If I would learn English because of Great Britain LOL :)
The real country/government/whatever that needs to be dealt with is the lobbyist assholes all around the world. That want to earn money.
There is no force needed at all since N.Koreas can say whatever they want within their own territory. Do you feel the need to force everyone to be like you are?
If you invade countries and in doing so kill innocent people how is this good? Can you guarantee that the other country will attack you ? No you cant. Remember the Iraq shit? WE ARE 100% SURE THEY HAVE NUKES, CHEMICAL WEAPONS BLAH. Guess what nothing! Don't fall for this shit twice! Germans felt for the same crap 70 years ago and it feels like Americans are their spiritual successors...
Sure you are not the ones threatening to nuke someone you already threatened the whole world to invade every country that doesnt play by your rules. You do this so great your own population doesnt even think its threatening anymore. You sabotage other countries economy (sanctions etc.) Thats certainly better than what N.Koread did (which was just USING WORDS to show the world that they are not IRAQ)
Seriously think about it.
You are N.Korea you deal with your own shit then there is the USA a huge powerful country that obviously can do whatever it wants because it is part of every major world council. UN security council/economics/human rights whatever. There is not even 1 thing in the world that has influence without the USA being a part of it or being in full control.
The only way to prevend your country from being f*cked (no matter how shitty it is) is to come up with effective ways to defend. In this case the easiest way are nukes which act as a deterrent.
Now there is the USA they dont want you to have an effective way to defend so they come and tell you to stop having nukes etc. HOW DUMB IS THIS?
The USA is basically EA and in this case N.Korea is Nintendo lol. Ask others to willingly have a disadvantage(Origin/no defence) and if they say NO act all angry and punish (no support/sanctions) WTF?!?
I mean the USA is working on a ANTI NUKE SHIIELD to have an advantage. People dont want the USA to have this the USA doesnt care what others want. The usa will have the advantage soon enough....
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JazzB1987 said:
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Lengthy comment so at least you put thought into it. I don't agree with you but i appreciate that you put time into it.
I still believe N.Korea is wrong. If they want Nukes for defense that is one thing but they are planning to attack from many statements that has been said in the last few months. America isn't going to do something until we are pushed and this is pushing the issue. As far as Iraq, I live in the US and very few people agree with us being in Iraq so we aren't mindless people here like you are making us sound. And once again Iraq shouldnt have attacked us and we would never have had an excuse to go there in the first place. i still dont agree with us being there still but that was Iraq's decision to attack america.
spurgeonryan said:
Yahoo is not the only site that is posting this. It was all over the radio on my way home from work this morning. |
I don't mean the content. I mean the presentation. It's composed in a very sensational, aggressive way.
Compare it to this article on the same subject, from CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/07/world/asia/un-north-korea-sanctions/index.html
Nothing will happen, North Korea likes to make these threats in a vain attempt to keep relevant and in the spotlight, the UN will still discuss their sanctions against North Korea and then impose them (then the North concedes concessions to release the sanctions only to start building missiles again... rinse and repeat).
If they do attempt anything on the 11th, it will be purely symbolic in nature, the North can not have attempt to win a war which lasts even months... Seoul however is relatively close to the border, if they attempted to capture Seoul from the South and then offered an immediate ceasefire in exchange for considerable concessions... I could see logic in attempting to do that (sort of similar to the Schlieffen Plan by Germany in WW1).
JazzB1987 said: I am not defending N.Korea at all lol :) I am just showing you that a conflict always has 2 parties not just 1. And as long as ones own country is not much better one should avoid preaching because this is a sign of ignorance. |
Go ahead, name 1'000 things wrong with the USA. It would still show that the USA is better (not really the word for it, but whatever) than most countries are. You can't write that off.
And where did you get that figure of 95% of every countries population aren't smart and fall for everything that their government says? I'm pretty sure you just pulled that out of thin air. Anyhow, this is not the topic at hand we are supposed to be talking about North Korea and their horrible decision to make statements like this. Not how people dislike the US and their reasons for it.
Edit: And I agree that there is a cause and effect relationship. N. Korea can't be the only ones in this problem.