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Worse launch?

PS3 394 56.85%
 
Wii U 299 43.15%
 
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Screamapillar said:
PS3, for sure. Wii U was handled fine and NoA did a decent job playing the hand they were dealt. Wii U's one and only problem is a three-month drought of software that is literally painful to watch.

I've said it in other threads... Wii U was not ready to launch last year. The quantity of attractive first-party games that get people's attention was lacking. I have never seen a weaker first-party launch lineup for a Nintendo home console since before N64.

GameCube had Luigi, Smash, and Pikmin. N64 had Mario 64. Wii had Twilight Princess and Wii Sports.

Wii U had.... Nintendo Land and another NSMB game. Yikes.

You calling the SNES launch lineup weak? It was small as hell, yeah, but Super Mario World and F Zero beat the hell out of NSMBU and Nintendoland.



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curl-6 said:
TheJimbo1234 said:
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TheJimbo1234 said:
Lol at everyone saying PS3.
Just pull up the sales figures guys. WiiU is set to go worse than the DC at this current rate.

The DC didn't have Mario Kart, Smash Bros, 3D Mario, Zelda, etc. ;)


So when they come out, it might just bump it up to a DC flop, rather than beating it with a WiiU flop !

The DC was bogged down by the failure of the Saturn and the 32x and Sega CD before it, plagued by piracy, and lacked Nintendo's heavy hitting franchises. The Wii U's problems are trivial in comparison to the Dreamcast's woes. There's pretty much no way the Wii U won't significantly outsell the Dreamcast.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/31/six-reasons-the-wiiu-is-struggling/

Well sadly the epxerts don;t agree with you and would say the WiiU has many problems, not just a lack of games.

First of all, the amount of time the "experts" have been proven horribly wrong in this industry is astounding; they predicted Dreamcast level sales for the Wii, which is now nearing 100 million.

Secondly, that article made no comparison with the Dreamcast.

The Wii U isn't pirated to hell like the Dreamcast was. The Wii U isn't coming after a series of failures like the Dreamcast was. The Wii U has 8-digit selling franchises, which the Dreamcast lacked.

"experts"?? Yes, experts. The people who have degrees and experience. You really don't have a leg to stand on to argue otherwise, and when have they been wrong? They got SW:TOR perfectly right to every fans horror and screaming. They said the Wii would fail? Yeah - maybe some guy, not Forbes.

I linked the article to show you that the WiiU does have problems beyond just lacking games, just as the DC had more than one problem...not that they have the same problem.

Well that's nice, but how are they going to address 5 of those points?  You just skirted around the issue and said "but its Nintendo so they'll be fine amiright?"..no, not really.

Degrees and experience haven't stopped the "experts" being wrong many, many times. Practically entire industry said the Wii would continue the downward slide of the N64 and Gamecube. It went on to easily outsell the two of them put together. And since you're so convinced of Forbes being some kind of all-knowing beacon of knowledge, one of their columnists said Microsoft would sell Xbox off to Sony.

And every one of thwe problems they listed problems can be solved fairly simply.

1. People can easily relate to a touchpad, everyone has smart phones. Not a problem.

2. Do an ad campaign similar to "this is not DS, this is 3DS."

3. Lower price point will attract casuals in time. Not the whole Wii audience, but it doesn't need them all to be successful.

4. The games are coming.

5. The price will drop in time.

6. Offer difference experiences to Microsoft and Sony.


Still no links to these experts getting it wrong, thus I'm just going to say you are wrong.

1. No. How can they relate a touchpad to gaming, not "how can they relate to a touchpad".

2.But a 3DS looks 3D, that is unique. What is special about the WiiU? It looks the same, plays the same. It just has a pad that does nothing special.

3.Only if the other rivals are not low in price too. If they are, then what will the WiiU do then?

4.And are of what quality? Let me guess, same thing, different day, 7th gen graphics?

5.Yes, but so will the rivals.

6.Difference =/= good or better. 



PS3, it was legendary how bad it was.



The scenario or the sales?

Scenario: PS3, everything was bad for PS3 launch.
Sales: Wii U because with so bad scenario I call the PS3 launch sales AMAZING (you have to add Europe late launch numbers here too).



TheJimbo1234 said:


Still no links to these experts getting it wrong, thus I'm just going to say you are wrong.

1. No. How can they relate a touchpad to gaming, not "how can they relate to a touchpad".

2.But a 3DS looks 3D, that is unique. What is special about the WiiU? It looks the same, plays the same. It just has a pad that does nothing special.

3.Only if the other rivals are not low in price too. If they are, then what will the WiiU do then?

4.And are of what quality? Let me guess, same thing, different day, 7th gen graphics?

5.Yes, but so will the rivals.

6.Difference =/= good or better. 

I can't be bothered digging them up, as they've all been buried by similar articles about Wii U, but if you knew anything about the industry at the time you'd know it was considered common knowledge up until just before launch. Nintendo had been diminishing in sales since the 80s and the so-called "experts" said the trend would continue. I suggest you not place so much stock in what these people say. Think for yourself. Michael Pachter is an "expert" and his inaccuracy is legend.

1. People plays games on their touch phones/pads.

2. The pad can do many things that are special. And it certainly does not look the same as the Wii, or play the same as any other console.

3. 8GB RAM and the kind of CPUs/GPUs alleged to be in PS4 and Nextbox don't come cheap. The Wii U will be able to undercut them.

4. The top-tier quality that Nintendo consistently proves itself capable of producing.

5. See 3.

6. To many people, it will be. Different means less direct competition and hence less lost sales.



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I am currently going to go with the wiiU. While they definitely screwed up with the PS3, with the lack of games and it being super expensive, they did make up for all of it. 

Now with the wiiU, they screwed up everything. It is barely stronger than current gen consoles, the ps4 already has more third party support, there are no games for it, they launched at just the wrong time (the same strength and earlier, or stronger and later would have been better), and it is very over priced. Fun fact: you can build a comparable gaming pc for just $30 more, that includes windows 7 by the way. Most people don't include that. The biggest one of all, nearly no storage. Now they can never do a large update, you can't install games, and you can't download in an increasingly digital world. 



depends how you look at it, if your talking about sales, ps3 is actually selling better. if your talking about launch, i think nintendo did everything right, good price for a new console, good games and mario, while ps3 did everything wrong.



ninjablade said:
if your talking about launch, i think nintendo did everything right, good price for a new console, good games and mario, while ps3 did everything wrong.

I strongly disagree that they did everything right. They didn't have a single big "core" exclusive that really showed the power of the console, and their 1st party efforts (NSMBU and Nintendoland) were casual games on a console out of the casual price range.



PS3 since the WiiU is not even out half a year. Ask again after e3



curl-6 said:
ninjablade said:
if your talking about launch, i think nintendo did everything right, good price for a new console, good games and mario, while ps3 did everything wrong.

I strongly disagree that they did everything right. They didn't have a single big "core" exclusive that really showed the power of the console, and their 1st party efforts (NSMBU and Nintendoland) were casual games on a console out of the casual price range.


yea but nintendo already tried that method, with N64 and gamecube, and nintendo, gave up on impressing gamers with graphics, it's about impressing gamers with new innovative controls method, and it worked with wii.