As you argue with him though he starts to get more and more desperate. As that happens you starts using out right lies and circular logic to promote is arguement. Once he hits that level you report him and he is banned for a few days. All and all it is worth the headache for a few days of peace.

 Oh and since I missed one of his points I will deal with it here.

 Nope, they just aren't very relevant, or actually one of my arguing points oddly. Fact 1 is great. Really it is. I don't see where you are going with that though. The people who wait until late in the generation to hop in are more frugal than the early adopters. The PS3 will always have the highest pricetag and thus always have that handicap. I talked about this earlier.

 Fact 2 again supports me but is entirely irrelevant. The gaming market has expanded since 2000 so all consoles should see a comparitive increase in sales. The PS3 is selling at a slower pace than the PS2 was however. The expanded market seems to have only softened the blow for the console rather than helping.

 Fact 3 is a point I have been making for a while now actually. Your worthless comparison is made worthless by just this point. If the PS2 had a launch window similar to the PS3 it would have sold way more units than the PS3 did. I don't know why you think I am ignoring this, but it is probably because you aren't actually reading my arguements again.

 Fact 4 is true, irrelevant, and again supports my case. The PS2 handily outsold all of its competitors from the time of launch until today. The only console that current fits into that PS2 mold would be the Wii. If being able to outsell your opponents by a huge amount makes them not serious competition then I guess you would admit the Wii is on the market by itself?

LOL holy shit crazyman take a breather.

cant you already see how loved you are in this thread?http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=15635#end

You dont want to ruin your great reputation..

xD!

Yes it will

Hahaha.

They may be multiplat, but they are still coming to the ps3. Imo, games like GTA will help both the 360 and ps3 against the Wii, and the exclusives like MGS4 will help the ps3 over the 360.

If 80% of the ps1's games had been multiplat, would it have dominated the N64? No.

I personally think that the ps3 will end up around 70-80 mil. at the end of its life. The Wii will probably have excelled well passed ps2 numbers by that point (probably close to 130 mil.), and the 360 will trail behind them both at around 35-45 mil.

I think that many casuals will jump on the Wii bandwagon, but I also believe that the casual demographic on the whole will be split. Some will go for controls, others for shiny visuals. Also, it seems that the ps3/360 are still getting quite a good bit of developer support compared to the Wii, something that the N64, GC, and Xbox did not have. The Wii will not have as dominant a game library as the ps2 had, as franchises like Soul Calibur will still be hitting the ps3/360 while only spin-offs will be hitting the Wii. The Wii will have the best line-up in the end (Zelda, Mario, No More Heroes, etc.) but it won't be as weighted as the ps1/2's.

In the end, I see the Wii getting most of the casual support, thus selling the most by far out of the three. However, a good bit of the casuals will still go for the ps3/360 because of graphics, GTA, etc., and out of those two, I think that the ps3 will gnab the larger portion. I think that exclusives from Sony's in-house development teams (Uncharted, inFamous, Resistance 2, Team Ico's next game), as well as those from major 3rd parties (MGS4, FFXIII, Tekken 6), combined with things like Blu-Ray playback, free online, hardware reliability, and most importantly "PlayStation" familiarity will propel the ps3 well passed the 360.

Overall, I think that the market will grow quite a bit over the coming years, so that even the console in third place will end up almost doubling the total sales of the GC/Xbox.

Id say about 10% in California!

im sticking with my 1.5x infated numbers due to broken console

The PS3 will finish 3rd in the US. That means it will reach 50 million MAX.

yes, i think it will. Slow start...but it'll get there. 10 million a year for 10 years on average.

 I really hate trying to prove a point against you, but oh well.

I never said that the PS3 won't have an increase in it's second year. The 360 had a 37% increase from it's first year sales to second year sales. I never said how it will end up. Same with the PS3. I merely said that the first few years are the most important. Also, just because I mentioned the GameCube and Xbox, I never said that the PS3 won't sell better than those two consoles. Even in the post that I was quoting, the end of gen sales for the PS3 was 40 million, which is better than the GameCube and Xbox.

And I'm sure you'll reply to this by quoting me wrong, and then saying something that is either not related to what I said or not really in the same area as what I said, followed by a =) 

Strange prediction, since you believe (going by your sign) that X360 will have 25 mill by EOY 2008 (which means a brilliant 9 million units sold in the year), and PS3 at 19 mill.

You think in years 2009, 2010 and 2011 the X360 then will just ultra-die and sell only ~15 mill?

But the PS3 will in the same three years (plus 2012??) sell another ~50 mill?