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Wyrdness on 23 February 2013
nnodley said:
Wyrdness said:
nnodley said:

Ya because we all know the exact price ps4 will be.   They won't to that again and investors can't be so stupid to believe it.  If the ps4 is $600  with these specs then what will the nexbox be priced at with equal specs and supposedly kinect 2 bundled in with it?  The least sony will go is $400 and the most they should go is $500. 


MS can absorb losses though which makes them capable of selling at huge loss for a while, Live even helps soften the losses.

Yes, they can deal with more losses, but which one do you think people will choose if one is cheaper than the other.   A high price tag certainly didn't help sony at all until the price came down.  It would probably be disastrous for MS to launch the nexbox at more than what the ps4 cost.


Point to where I said it'll be more expensive if anything that indicates it will be cheaper regardless of production cost, Sony don't have that same advantage of absorbing losses, X3 can launch at 350 if the PS4 is priced at 400 as a means of undercutting Sony.



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nnodley on 23 February 2013
Wyrdness said:
nnodley said:
Wyrdness said:
nnodley said:

Ya because we all know the exact price ps4 will be.   They won't to that again and investors can't be so stupid to believe it.  If the ps4 is $600  with these specs then what will the nexbox be priced at with equal specs and supposedly kinect 2 bundled in with it?  The least sony will go is $400 and the most they should go is $500. 


MS can absorb losses though which makes them capable of selling at huge loss for a while, Live even helps soften the losses.

Yes, they can deal with more losses, but which one do you think people will choose if one is cheaper than the other.   A high price tag certainly didn't help sony at all until the price came down.  It would probably be disastrous for MS to launch the nexbox at more than what the ps4 cost.


Point to where I said it'll be more expensive if anything that indicates it will be cheaper regardless of production cost, Sony don't have that same advantage of absorbing losses, X3 can launch at 350 if the PS4 is priced at 400 as a means of undercutting Sony.

No, I'm not saying you said they were gonna be more expensive, it might of sounded that way, but that's not what I was going for.  I think it will be, but not more than $50-$100.  That is just going off the rumors of X3 have similar specs and having kinect bundled with every console, because the new kinect will cost probably $100 alone from the way it sounds with upgraded tech.  Now they could actually end up not bundling kinect with every one which would help keep cost down to where they could undercut Sony in a console only sku.



newwil7l on 23 February 2013
Lawlight said:
newwil7l said:
Lawlight said:
Actually, Sony shares rose at the after hours trading following the PS Meeting. Don't know what TC is talking about.


It fell 4% though. What are you talking about?


I'm looking at the NYSE and it didn't fall by 4%. It went up by 2.4% or 2.8% after the PS Meeting.



Shortly after those rises it fell 4%

Carl on 23 February 2013
DaRev said:

By the way, who has the "gimped, gimmicky controller" - surely you are not referring to the WiiU?

Edit: your sig is very distracting

The PS3 did. It had no rumble and relied on crappy motion control.



                            

AIAS on 23 February 2013
sales2099 said:
Guess Ill say it: Sony didn't meet peoples expectations and now the WiiU (with its current head start) is more likely to keep its lead.



It definetely did not meet shareholder expectations!



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Carl on 23 February 2013
phenom08 said:


Wow have I struck a cord lol. Opposite? PS3 had plenty of 3rd party support lol just like PS4 so no difference there at all, try not to make things up as you go. Or were you referring to "easy to develop for"? If so, so what? 360 was easier to develop for, didnt stop PS3 from outpacing it. So being easier to develop for doesnt improve sells, youre just looking for something positive to say about PS4. They did give the competition 12-16 months of a headstart, they're called Nintendo lol. Just ask the PSP, Vita, and PS3 how fun it is releasing after a Ninty platform and I dont see how releasing next to Nextbox is any better. Biggest publisher on the planet is Ninty by the way. Third party deals? Sony has great 3rd party support so...... so what. First party games were nothing but games that would be lucky to crack a million. Finally, yes they did show a gimped, gimmicky controller. It had a touchpad they mentioned maybe once lol and the 3d camera that was beside the controller was the definition of gimmick. Long story short, PS4 is quite similar to the PS3.

The PS3 had rubbish 3rd party support. There was little worth owning until MGS4 and the ports were buggy and rubbish. The 360 had the better games, fact... Thats why it built a lead of over 8 Million units and maintained it until the PS3 went Slim.

Being easier to dev for doesnt give you better sales directly. The games that come from that, bring sales. If you can buy a console for a good quality game or a buggy game, which would you buy?

Nintendo hardly count. They would have done, if they had any meaningful 3rd party support in that 12 Months. Instead, Wii U games are being delayed for last gen consoles lol...

DS4 has actual triggers. Concave thumb sticks. Its bulkier. It isnt gimped. Gimmicky, we cant say yet as we dont know what the touchpad is for. I feel that it will be used mainly for media apps and menu browsing. Think of a laptop touchpad. Share button is a great innovation



                            

dark_gh0st_b0y on 23 February 2013

well, Ps3 to Ps4 jump is same as Ps2 to Ps3, nothing unexpected or amazing in my opinion

on the other hand, Wii to WiiU jump is not as big as GC to Wii in terms of gameplay, it is in terms of graphics though, so who knows

very interesting!



don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^

SnesTea on 23 February 2013
amp316 said:
Panama said:
Is pointing out the obvious a bannable offence on these forums?

No, if that were the case I would have been out of here a long time ago.

I still don't know how you became a mod.



Wyrdness on 23 February 2013
nnodley said:

No, I'm not saying you said they were gonna be more expensive, it might of sounded that way, but that's not what I was going for.  I think it will be, but not more than $50-$100.  That is just going off the rumors of X3 have similar specs and having kinect bundled with every console, because the new kinect will cost probably $100 alone from the way it sounds with upgraded tech.  Now they could actually end up not bundling kinect with every one which would help keep cost down to where they could undercut Sony in a console only sku.


MS alternatively could go for a slightly lower spec machine in the end to save on some costs, it'll be powerful enough for multiplats and save enough to undercut the PS4.



phenom08 on 23 February 2013
Carl2291 said:
phenom08 said:


Wow have I struck a cord lol. Opposite? PS3 had plenty of 3rd party support lol just like PS4 so no difference there at all, try not to make things up as you go. Or were you referring to "easy to develop for"? If so, so what? 360 was easier to develop for, didnt stop PS3 from outpacing it. So being easier to develop for doesnt improve sells, youre just looking for something positive to say about PS4. They did give the competition 12-16 months of a headstart, they're called Nintendo lol. Just ask the PSP, Vita, and PS3 how fun it is releasing after a Ninty platform and I dont see how releasing next to Nextbox is any better. Biggest publisher on the planet is Ninty by the way. Third party deals? Sony has great 3rd party support so...... so what. First party games were nothing but games that would be lucky to crack a million. Finally, yes they did show a gimped, gimmicky controller. It had a touchpad they mentioned maybe once lol and the 3d camera that was beside the controller was the definition of gimmick. Long story short, PS4 is quite similar to the PS3.

The PS3 had rubbish 3rd party support. There was little worth owning until MGS4 and the ports were buggy and rubbish. The 360 had the better games, fact... Thats why it built a lead of over 8 Million units and maintained it until the PS3 went Slim.

Being easier to dev for doesnt give you better sales directly. The games that come from that, bring sales. If you can buy a console for a good quality game or a buggy game, which would you buy?

Nintendo hardly count. They would have done, if they had any meaningful 3rd party support in that 12 Months. Instead, Wii U games are being delayed for last gen consoles lol...

DS4 has actual triggers. Concave thumb sticks. Its bulkier. It isnt gimped. Gimmicky, we cant say yet as we dont know what the touchpad is for. I feel that it will be used mainly for media apps and menu browsing. Think of a laptop touchpad. Share button is a great innovation


If you say so, so what are your expectations? Will it have a better Nov and December than WiiU? Or will it only begin tracking better than WiiU from January and beyond? Also what pricepoint will it do this at?