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haxxiy on 13 February 2013
Wlakiz said:

yup, just like how they destoryed things by making their own map app and Apple T.V.. which btw, I asked a sales representative at Apple store "So I have a PS3, what benefit would an Apple T.V bring?". His reply "None"


One product below average doesn't mean anything, specially for one know for heavy hits like Apple. I don't see anyone using Zune as an example why MS hardware is doomed to failure. 

Anyways I don't know why you even quoted him - it's not like your post offer any relevant insight on his consideration of financial matters. 



 

 

 

 

 

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Bladeforce on 13 February 2013

ha Microsoft will kill itself if they rumors are true about pre-owned games



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Bill Gates had Mac prototypes to work from, and he was known to be obsessed with trying to make Windows as good as SAND (Steve's Amazing New Device), as a Microsoft exec named it. It was the Mac that Microsoft took for its blueprint on how to make a GUI.

 

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disolitude on 13 February 2013
haxxiy said:
Wlakiz said:

yup, just like how they destoryed things by making their own map app and Apple T.V.. which btw, I asked a sales representative at Apple store "So I have a PS3, what benefit would an Apple T.V bring?". His reply "None"


One product below average doesn't mean anything, specially for one know for heavy hits like Apple. I don't see anyone using Zune as an example why MS hardware is doomed to failure. 

Anyways I don't know why you even quoted him - it's not like your post offer any relevant insight on his consideration of financial matters. 

Apple had 4 "hit" products in the last 12 years. iPod, iTunes, iPad, iPhone. All are consumer facing devices and Apple is very much a consumer facing company. 

Microsoft on the other had has 3 skillsets in which they have had success. Consumer side, busines side and the cloud/applications side. 

Zune was a market flop but microsoft triend and it failed. Call me when apple even tries to compete with Microsoft on the business or cloud front.



Turkish on 13 February 2013

Guy talks a lot of bullshit. Apple TVs aren't even that popular.



PureDante on 13 February 2013

I feel like Nintendo would be most harmed by Apple entering the market; they'd easily take all of the casual customers. For the hardcores, however, I doubt it would happen.



All of this, of course, is just my opinion.

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Wlakiz on 13 February 2013
haxxiy said:
Wlakiz said:

yup, just like how they destoryed things by making their own map app and Apple T.V.. which btw, I asked a sales representative at Apple store "So I have a PS3, what benefit would an Apple T.V bring?". His reply "None"


One product below average doesn't mean anything, specially for one know for heavy hits like Apple. I don't see anyone using Zune as an example why MS hardware is doomed to failure. 

Anyways I don't know why you even quoted him - it's not like your post offer any relevant insight on his consideration of financial matters. 


His reasoning for apple being able to 'destroy' things is based on apple having '130 billion in the bank and no debt". I mearly provided examples where the company with '130 billion in the bank and no debt' failed to destroy.

Having a bunch of cash in hand doesn't mean you can casually jump into a random market. Why doesn't apple go into oil exporting, with 130 billion in the bank and no debt they can no doubt destroy 'exxon business in the blink of an eye'. .. ehm.. no.



ebw on 13 February 2013
Wlakiz said:
disolitude said:
Apple has 130 billion in the bank and no debt. They could destroy a lot of things by simply buying them out. Xbox brand however isn't something that they would be able to touch as that is one of the few consumer facing successes Microsoft has and they aren't in need of cash.

yup, just like how they destoryed things by making their own map app and Apple T.V.. which btw, I asked a sales representative at Apple store "So I have a PS3, what benefit would an Apple T.V bring?". His reply "None"

Apple TV is now selling at about half the rate of Xbox 360 (2 million vs. 5 million last quarter) and unlike the 360 it's growing at 60% year-over-year.  Since you didn't mention having any iPad or iPhone, the Apple TV's function is basically reduced to a Netflix/Hulu player, which the PS3 is already capable of.  So it was accurate for the store rep to say that an Apple TV wouldn't add much to your life, but gosh, there sure are a lot of iPhones and iPads out there!

Apple has barely begun to invest in Apple TV -- they don't run any ads for it, and most people don't even know what it is -- but the brand is growing steadily on the back of iOS.  Apple TV is already outselling its direct competitors in the market, such as Roku, and Google TV has been a dismal failure.  Should Apple decide the time is finally right to make an aggressive push, it would be rather foolish to discount their presence.



Screamapillar on 13 February 2013

This is complete hogwash. Apple would have to sell their TVs into millions and millions of homes before it had an install base to rival the consoles. Even then, a TV with that kind of functionality would costs thousands, and at that price it's not all competitive with game systems, which sell for less than $300 for most of their life-span.



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tonymarraffa on 13 February 2013

The thread's name is wrong. It said all console makers not just Microsoft, TYPICAL!!!



Mummelmann on 13 February 2013

Hmm, the current "games" available on such services would have no chance to "kill" the likes of GTA, CoD, Need for Speed, FIFA, NBA, Mario, Uncharted, Gears of War, Halo, Mass Effect etc.
Its complete hogwash.
If anything, consumers are becoming more aware of the markets and what they offer and Apple are becoming less relevant, slowly but certainly.
They're not going away, not by a long shot, but the market will be a lot more even in the near future and Apple likely won't dominate more than Sony, MS or Nintendo in most areas.

Consumer awareness + stellar competition + technology and services starting to lag behind = tougher times for Apple and better times for consumers who won't have to take it up the proverbial bum all year, every year.