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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 07 February 2013
Roma said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Or God could just say that, "If you were to live for 80 years on Earth, you would end up in hell due to your arrogance and selfishness which will affect your judgement. Trust me, I am God."

Who wouldn't trust God to tell the truth?

wouldn't you believe in him if he personally told you that?


Yes I would.

 

But he hasn't. Which means that he is either watching all of us going through pain and pleasure for his own amusement or that he is not omniscient and do not yet know where we will end up.

 

Or that he doesn't exist.



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slowmo on 07 February 2013

Sometimes I'm glad I'm not a religious man...



ps3-sales! on 07 February 2013

Oh look another religious thread on the Vgchartz forums. This should go well.



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Tom3k on 07 February 2013

I think it's funny that the name of the tread is "logical proof for God", because there's nothing logical about God. He defies logic. Last time I tried arguing with logic, but honestly what's the point? You can't reason with those that don't want to be reasoned. Or simply selectively apply "logic" only in a way that suits them.



Roma on 07 February 2013
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Roma said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Or God could just say that, "If you were to live for 80 years on Earth, you would end up in hell due to your arrogance and selfishness which will affect your judgement. Trust me, I am God."

Who wouldn't trust God to tell the truth?

wouldn't you believe in him if he personally told you that?


Yes I would.

 

But he hasn't. Which means that he is either watching all of us going through pain and pleasure for his own amusement or that he is not omniscient and do not yet know where we will end up.

 

Or that he doesn't exist.

why would he be amused of something he knows already?

a movie amuses me because I don't know what will happen in it

If he shows himself then that defeats the purpose he created you for



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

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Roma on 07 February 2013
Tom3k said:

I think it's funny that the name of the tread is "logical proof for God", because there's nothing logical about God. He defies logic. Last time I tried arguing with logic, but honestly what's the point? You can't reason with those that don't want to be reasoned. Or simply selectively apply "logic" only in a way that suits them.

I couldn't have said it better myself honestly

 

creation created it self "Logic"



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

Attoyou on 07 February 2013

I feel sorry for religious people, wasting their life doing mental gymnastics defending a lie because they are scared of the dark.



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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 07 February 2013
Roma said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Roma said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Or God could just say that, "If you were to live for 80 years on Earth, you would end up in hell due to your arrogance and selfishness which will affect your judgement. Trust me, I am God."

Who wouldn't trust God to tell the truth?

wouldn't you believe in him if he personally told you that?


Yes I would.

 

But he hasn't. Which means that he is either watching all of us going through pain and pleasure for his own amusement or that he is not omniscient and do not yet know where we will end up.

 

Or that he doesn't exist.

why would he be amused of something he knows already?

a movie amuses me because I don't know what will happen in it

If he shows himself then that defeats the purpose he created you for


And why would he create me if he knew exactly what, how and when things would happen to me throughout my entire life? Why would he watch me live my life if he already knows exactly what will happen to me and how I will react in each and every past, present and future scenario?

Please tell me the purpose that he created me for. I fail to see why he couldn't just skip creating an entire universe when he already knew how everything would play out. If he is almighty he doesn't need anything to happen, because there is no way that he would profit from it.



Roma on 07 February 2013
Jay520 said:
Roma said:

we do not live in heaven that's why life is the way it is. it's part of the test some people are good and other are bad that's what heaven and hell is there for 

we have free choice and the choice to hurt each other comes from humans not being able to live in harmony with one another. imagine if the human was created so that no wars would happen and there would be no diseases what would happen to humans? 

why God does not put people in heaven and hell? well he could do that but then you would ask God "what did I do to end up in hell?" and the other "what did I do to deserve this reward in heaven?". he already knows what you will do but you don't that's why you have to live life, to find out why you end up in hell or heaven.


Why create "bad" people at all then? If God already knows they will be bad, he shouldn't create them. That way, he wouldn't have to waste time with a "test" he knows the answer to and there would never be people asking God "why do I deserve this?" because they would have never been created in the first place.

he created the choice. that's part of the purpose of life


only you can chose to be good or evil.



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

Tom3k on 07 February 2013
Roma said:

creation created it self "Logic"


And "creator" is exception right? He just is? So it's acceptable for "God" to be atheist? Since he "believes" according to religious claims that he wasn't created... 

If everything in exsistence needs a creator then "God" can't be excepted from that "rule"... If God can be excepted from that rule then other things in exsistence don't need a creator.

 

And as many times you repeat that creator is not a creation, it doesn't change the "logic" of sentences above. it only proves your selective application of so called logic, when and where it suits you.