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Roma said:

creation created it self "Logic"


And "creator" is exception right? He just is? So it's acceptable for "God" to be atheist? Since he "believes" according to religious claims that he wasn't created... 

If everything in exsistence needs a creator then "God" can't be excepted from that "rule"... If God can be excepted from that rule then other things in exsistence don't need a creator.

 

And as many times you repeat that creator is not a creation, it doesn't change the "logic" of sentences above. it only proves your selective application of so called logic, when and where it suits you.