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The low sales of both consoles lead some people to do the comparison, trying to link the destiny of both consoles when the situation is clearly different:

The Wii U is not selling very well, but is on the same path that most of the other consoles before it. More important, it just released and we know that its AAA games are coming. Nintendo has just used one first shot, and the best has yet to come. And all the sales the Wii U is taking now, it is just bonus as the competition hasn't launched anything yet.  The 360 had a first year advance on the PS3, and capitalized on this 5 millions advance for most of the generation.

The PS Vita on the other hand is already 24 millions console behind its main competitor, that's a crushing gap that has absolutely no chance to be diminished. And worse, there are absolutely no game we can think about that could revitalize the console, seen just as a useless PS3 portable.

 

The Wii U is in a much much better stop than the PS Vita, it is not even fair to make a comparison.



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I think this would be a good thread for you

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=154096



I agree, the Wii U really shouldn't be judged until it's been out a year. But people judged the Vita the same way all year long too. People love doom & gloom.

On the other hand, I don't believe the 3DS and Vita are truly competitors either, the 3DS being an inexpensive, light and simple game device for a general audience, and the Vita being a more pricey, but much higher tech device with more hardcore games aimed at the gamer and tech savvy audience. While Vita hardware sales could definitely be higher to expand the user base, software sales are picking up, at least I know in Japan, and it is proving to be a good platform for small-medium third party game developers.



Lucas-Rio said:

The low sales of both consoles lead some people to do the comparison, trying to link the destiny of both consoles when the situation is clearly different:

The Wii U is now selling very well, but is on the same path that most of the other consoles before it. More important, it just released and we know that its AAA games are coming. Nintendo has just used one first shot, and the best has yet to come. And all the sales the Wii U is taking now, it is just bonus as the competition hasn't launched anything yet.  The 360 had a first year advance on the PS3, and capitalized on this 5 millions advance for most of the generation.

The PS Vita on the other hand is already 24 millions console behind its main competitor, that's a crushing gap that has absolutely no chance to be diminished. And worse, there are absolutely no game we can think about that could revitalize the console, seen just as a useless PS3 portable.

 

The Wii U is in a much much better stop than the PS Vita, it is not even fair to make a comparison.


Have you seen last weeks numbers? Its selling 3x less than PS3, its selling god knows how much less than Wii sold in the same time. The AAA don't hit until Holiday 2013, and with the leaked releaselist the Mario games were listed as TBA so they probably won't even launch this year.



Turkish said:
Lucas-Rio said:

The low sales of both consoles lead some people to do the comparison, trying to link the destiny of both consoles when the situation is clearly different:

The Wii U is now selling very well, but is on the same path that most of the other consoles before it. More important, it just released and we know that its AAA games are coming. Nintendo has just used one first shot, and the best has yet to come. And all the sales the Wii U is taking now, it is just bonus as the competition hasn't launched anything yet.  The 360 had a first year advance on the PS3, and capitalized on this 5 millions advance for most of the generation.

The PS Vita on the other hand is already 24 millions console behind its main competitor, that's a crushing gap that has absolutely no chance to be diminished. And worse, there are absolutely no game we can think about that could revitalize the console, seen just as a useless PS3 portable.

 

The Wii U is in a much much better stop than the PS Vita, it is not even fair to make a comparison.


Have you seen last weeks numbers? Its selling 3x less than PS3, its selling god knows how much less than Wii sold in the same time. The AAA don't hit until Holiday 2013, and with the leaked releaselist the Mario games were listed as TBA so they probably won't even launch this year.


I wanted to write "not"



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I agree. The wii u is too new at the moment. But I often see that we should wait another year to see the vita come out and do it's thing. In other words 2 years in total. So I'm kinda uncertain on the rules about this :D



But Vita does have games coming, and some big ones too, notably Killzone and tearaway. Just because Wii U is new now, it can't be compared but what if Wii U sales are just as bad next year. Support for both systems is pretty bad right now, but at least Nintendo has it's 1st party developers completely behind it. Only some of the sony's 1st parties support vita right now.



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Wii U definitly has more potential I think, it's just a matter of whether or not Nintendo decides to fullfill that potential, which may never happen, judging by some of their questionable moves of late.



you are right:vita is 24million units behind its competitor

but you are wrong:the wii u is 70 million behind its competitors

you are right:wii u's best ip's to come(zelda ,mario)

you are wrong:vitas best ip's to come(gt,gow)

you can compare both system as long as you compare graphics:no wii u game look better than wipeout 2048.
Wii U may show its innovative potential,but the hardware is old since release.
Vita has the hardware potential to do what ps3 has done,wii u has the potential to do what 3ds has done(being saved
by mario and link)

the biggest problem vita has:You can make a good game(80%) on 3DS and people will cheer:"it"s great(90%) because it is just a handheld game(10%bonus) and you can't compare handhelds to consoles.(People will laugh at you when you try and call you nintendo-antisemite.)
You can make a better game on Vita(90%) and people will moan:"well,all right,but it isn't as good as the ps360 version"-they do compare vita to consoles.

I don't know why,but even Nintendo consoles aren't compared or compared less to other consoles(since the wii) but the vita has to?that's really strange.
Is nintendo somehow handicapped to get this kind of special treatment?



I agree with the general gist of what you're saying. They can't be compared because, although sales a similar(ly terrible), they are in completely different situations. Wii U has just launched with numerous heavy-hitters to come which we know; whilst the Vita is already in the distant shadow of its competitor, selling worse than its predecessor and with games which will push nowhere near as much HW.

I see the Wii U, if Nintendo play its cards right, being a "3DS" of the next generation. Launch a year early with a ropey start, launch Mario, Zelda etc. in its first year, drop the price just before its competitors come out and advertise the hell out of it. Then you have the Wii U with its bugs ironed out and a solid SW library for around $100-$150 cheaper than its rivals. In this economy, that can make a difference and give the Wii U the push required.

The Vita has a 0% chance of this happening.



 

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