Which includes every sold Move controller (also ones bought as a second or third controller) plus the optional Navigation controller, so don't be surprised if the Move install base is only half of 15m.

Fact is MS got a lot of casual fans due to Kinect which would've never bought the 360 otherwise. Where they came from is impossible to say (unless you make a survey), but some of them definitely came from the Wii userbase, others from "nowhere".

Please note that I'm not saying that Move didn't bring casuals to the PS3.

Why does it matter if it includes both the Navigation controller and the Move controller? From a business standpoint it doesn't matter. They have sold 15 million units of the Move.

4 games? thats gotta be a record for ms

L.A.
Victoria

Info gathered from NeoGaf and other places:

"Black Tusk Studios (working on a new AAA core ip franchise) http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-11-29-new-dev-black-tusk-studios-working-on-microsofts-next-big-entertainment-franchise

Microsoft Studios Victoria (another new core AAA studio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt56feJEpqM

Rare is expanding a new AAA core studio and hiring for developers with experience in Action/Adventure and FPS genres

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-17-rare-hiring-for-multiple-aaa-future-console-releases

MS has built a Core studio in Redmond that has top talent:

Alex Liu- former Naughty Dog Game Designer on Uncharted 3 and worked on The Last of Us

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alex-liu/2b/1a9/14

Don Norbury- former Irrational Games AI Lead on Bioshock Infinite http://www.linkedin.com/in/donnorbury?trk=pub-pbmap

Clint Bundrick- former Irrational Games Combat Design Director and Principal Combat Designer on Bioshock Infinite

http://www.linkedin.com/in/clintbundrick?trk=pub-pbmap

Joseph Faulstick-former Irrational Games Producer on Bioshock Infinite and Bioshock1http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-faulstick/4/42a/702?trk=pub-pbmap

Ian Vogel-former Irrational Games Senior Designer on Bioshock 1 and Game Designer on System Shock 2 http://www.linkedin.com/in/ivogel

John Howard-former Halo Combat Evolved Lead Designer

Lionhead is working on a new ip http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-16-lionhead-making-mmo-like-new-ip-for-next-xbox-report

Ryse is a new ip from Crytek

Alan Wake 2 is rumored to be a Xbox 720 launch title

Bungie's new ip Destiney rumored as the Xbox 720 flagship launch title"

Reporting to the Narrative Director, a Narrative Designer is responsible for the technical implementation of the game story. The Narrative Designer will be relied upon to collaborate with other designers, artists and writers to implement of story content using game editors and scripting systems as part of the iterative process.

Job Responsibilities:

- Under supervision of Narrative Designer, the Narrative designer is responsible for technical implementation of narrative content.

-Collaborate with other designers to assist in design and implementation of story using game editors and scripting systems.

- Collaborate with external teams to evangelize and champion storytelling outlined by the Creative Director.

- Collaborate with art team on environmental storytelling to support the Narrative Director’s vision.

Work Experience:

- Two years of technical game design experience.

- Preferably shipped at least one AAA title as a narrative designer.

Education, Professional Training, Technical Training or Certification:

- B.A. degree preferred, or equivalent game design experience or scripting experience.

Knowledge/Skills:

- Experience using a scripting language is a must.

- Game writing ability

- Understand techniques to elicit player emotion.

- Familiarity with concept art creation and storyboarding.

- Knowledge of cinematic techniques.

- Experience working with art team on cinematic development.

Other Requirements:

- Strong interest in computer and video games.

- Ability to work well under pressure and with deadlines.

- Excellent communication, interpersonal, and organizational skills.

- Passion for First-person shooters.

- Excellent Communication and Collaboration skills

- Experience with game editors and scripting systems

- Excellent Organizational skills; self-motivated.

- In-depth knowledge of industry trends in interactive storytelling

http://www.microsoft-careers.com/job/Richmond-Narrative-Designer-IEB-Microsoft-Studios-%28824217%29-Job-VA-23173/2389695/

Thanks for an unforgettable 2012 and let’s rest and relax for the year ahead because, let me tell you, 2013 is going to be amazing.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-US/news/WIR_Year_In_Review_2012

http://www.microsoft-careers.com/content/ieb/ms-studios/

Black Tusk is hiring for somebody (Posted Jan. 23) to work on various AI systems such as path finding, decision making, crowd systems, squad logic etc. Experience with multiplayer and/or co-op gameplay development, Unreal engine experience and strong debugging and optimization skills in a multi-threaded environment is a also a plus.

http://www.microsoft-careers.com/job/Vancouver-Software-Development-Engineer-IEB-Microsoft-Studios-Vancouver-%28824356%29-Job-BC/2391917/

Epic games engine programmer job listing (Posted Jan. 22) mentions multithreaded systems, console experience, especially next-generation systems, experience with mobile engine development and Xbox LIVE experience. Epic games mentions in another job listing for a level designer (Posted Jan. 22) as qualification publicly released levels for a FPS, RPG, or Action Adventure game. Microsoft had a position open to work as a producer for Epic on dec. 12 2012. Microsoft also for their partner program is searching for a design director to work with external developers on Microsoft’s core titles (including shooters, RPGs, action/adventure, etc.).

http://www.linkedin.com/jobs?viewJob=&jobId=4675431&goback=%2Ebza_*1_*1_0_*1_*1_%2Fepic*5games&trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-jobt

I didn't mean they had any impact on Wii sales. I meant some of the casual gamers (who primarily wanted motion control based games) were attracted by the "cool new thing". Plus 20m is pretty strong considering it cost almost as much as the console at launch.

From Neogaf:

I got to do something this afternoon that made me nostalgic for a certain elemental princess...

— Chris Allcock (@taskbaarchitect) February 1, 2013

Kameo 2?

Epic games engine programmer job listing (Posted Jan. 22) mentions multithreaded systems, console experience, especially next-generation systems, experience with mobile engine development and Xbox LIVE experience. Epic games mentions in another job listing for a level designer (Posted Jan. 22) as qualification publicly released levels for a FPS, RPG, or Action Adventure game. Microsoft had a position open to work as a producer for Epic on dec. 12 2012. Microsoft also for their partner program is searching for a design director to work with external developers on Microsoft’s core titles (including shooters, RPGs, action/adventure, etc.).

Sounds like Microsoft and Epic may have something else going on besides Gears of War.

PS3 has already past xbox.