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KungKras on 30 January 2013
pezus said:
KungKras said:
PS3 will sell slightly more until Wii U gets Monster Hunter.

Lulz, I see what you did there

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Mummelmann on 30 January 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
Mummelmann said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Wii U will pick up after E3 I think. Playstation will continue to decline in all regions like Xbox.


Not so sure about that. The only announcements that drive sales are unveilings and release dates for new consoles, they generally drive the sales of the console being replaced downwards.

People don't buy consoles after seeing a trailer for a game that releases in six months or a year, that would be senseless (mind you, I'm not saying that there aren't senseless gamers, just that this is not the norm), people wait for actual games to be available for play with the added benefit of more services and a possibly lower price to boot. If things didn't work like that, the value of bundling games would be all but lost, this is clearly not the case.

Announcing games won't help the Wii U's sales, a combination of actually releasing them, cutting the price and making good on all the promises of functionality, removing the basic package (which is largely useless and barely moving in stores) might help. Even then, the sales will never be stellar since the product itself is greatly flawed in it's core design, lacking base appeal to both casual and core consumers.

I still don't understand where people get this notion that announcements at E3 or other big events help drive sales positively. Its not like the majority of consumers pay close attention to E3 and other events anyway, and for those who do (as mentioned) it makes no sense shelling out hundreds of dollars for a device with future promise, you buy it when that potential reaches fruition. Otherwise, the PS3 would have flown of shelves with the future promise and some of the amazing trailers and announcements that were shown, this didn't happen until Sony gave them real reasons to purchase the hardware.

True enough but It can give people a good glimpse at what is to come in the future for the Wii U. Like you said the general public don't really pay attention to E3 or any other event like it but it can help with the core market. 

The best they can hope for is giving the impression that they are aware of the market's demands and that things are going to improve. Another simple thing for them to do; just come right out and admit that things need betterment and that they are seeing a gross under-performance. Core consumers want to know that a company is aware of the overall situation, a manufacturer that ignores, or seemingly ignores, major issues will never gain the consumers trust.

Imagine if MS simply ignored the RROD issue. They instead came out and appoligized and extended their warranties, taking a huge loss but gaining trust with consumers, which has really paid off in the long run.

The only thing we hear from Nintendo yet is that "Wii U is doing good", "Its not that bad" (in regards to slow OS and apps) and "We didn't manage to finish it all" (in regards to lack of features and massive mandatory update upon first start and install).

Nintendo; own up, tell your customers that things haven't gone too smoothly but that you're working on the situation, don't make excuses. Drop the basic SKU, launching it at all was a mistake. Fix the OS issues as soon as possible, add the functionality that was promised and is owed, go even harder after online features, implement or at least consider implementing a trophy/achievement system (personally don't give a shit about it but many people do) and lastly; more bundles or simply better bundles. You can't afford to cut the price just yet, that would be a panic move with possible dire consequences for the company's overall economic outlook. Extend the possibility of using 3rd party peripherals and gear in the future, storage in particular, your storage solutions appear frail and backwards compared to the competition, any device with multimedia and online use in mind should be highly connectable and compatible with 3rd party equipment, that goes without saying.



NobleTeam360 on 30 January 2013
Mummelmann said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Mummelmann said:
NobleTeam360 said:
Wii U will pick up after E3 I think. Playstation will continue to decline in all regions like Xbox.


Not so sure about that. The only announcements that drive sales are unveilings and release dates for new consoles, they generally drive the sales of the console being replaced downwards.

People don't buy consoles after seeing a trailer for a game that releases in six months or a year, that would be senseless (mind you, I'm not saying that there aren't senseless gamers, just that this is not the norm), people wait for actual games to be available for play with the added benefit of more services and a possibly lower price to boot. If things didn't work like that, the value of bundling games would be all but lost, this is clearly not the case.

Announcing games won't help the Wii U's sales, a combination of actually releasing them, cutting the price and making good on all the promises of functionality, removing the basic package (which is largely useless and barely moving in stores) might help. Even then, the sales will never be stellar since the product itself is greatly flawed in it's core design, lacking base appeal to both casual and core consumers.

I still don't understand where people get this notion that announcements at E3 or other big events help drive sales positively. Its not like the majority of consumers pay close attention to E3 and other events anyway, and for those who do (as mentioned) it makes no sense shelling out hundreds of dollars for a device with future promise, you buy it when that potential reaches fruition. Otherwise, the PS3 would have flown of shelves with the future promise and some of the amazing trailers and announcements that were shown, this didn't happen until Sony gave them real reasons to purchase the hardware.

True enough but It can give people a good glimpse at what is to come in the future for the Wii U. Like you said the general public don't really pay attention to E3 or any other event like it but it can help with the core market. 

The best they can hope for is giving the impression that they are aware of the market's demands and that things are going to improve. Another simple thing for them to do; just come right out and admit that things need betterment and that they are seeing a gross under-performance. Core consumers want to know that a company is aware of the overall situation, a manufacturer that ignores, or seemingly ignores, major issues will never gain the consumers trust.

Imagine if MS simply ignored the RROD issue. They instead came out and appoligized and extended their warranties, taking a huge loss but gaining trust with consumers, which has really paid off in the long run.

The only thing we hear from Nintendo yet is that "Wii U is doing good", "Its not that bad" (in regards to slow OS and apps) and "We didn't manage to finish it all" (in regards to lack of features and massive mandatory update upon first start and install).

Nintendo; own up, tell your customers that things haven't gone too smoothly but that you're working on the situation, don't make excuses. Drop the basic SKU, launching it at all was a mistake. Fix the OS issues as soon as possible, add the functionality that was promised and is owed, go even harder after online features, implement or at least consider implementing a trophy/achievement system (personally don't give a shit about it but many people do) and lastly; more bundles or simply better bundles. You can't afford to cut the price just yet, that would be a panic move with possible dire consequences for the company's overall economic outlook. Extend the possibility of using 3rd party peripherals and gear in the future, storage in particular, your storage solutions appear frail and backwards compared to the competition, any device with multimedia and online use in mind should be highly connectable and compatible with 3rd party equipment, that goes without saying.

NOOOOOOOOO stop it with your long responses!!!!!!!!!! lol just kidding I appreciate your insight and agree with you for the most part.