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Mr Puggsly on 27 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
U guys keep saying it would be giving up market share to microsoft but thats not the point. These next 3 years would be to squeeze out as much profit as possible would be able to market it better to stay relevent against wii u/nextbox. Releasing in 2016 would give it a 1-2 year lead on the following gen.


You obviously do not understand Microsofts intentions with Sonys marketshare. Sony has to look after it like a dog because if not Microsoft will try to take them out and then monopolize the industry while dumbing everything down to specific to multimedia hubs over games. Multimedia is the very reason Microsoft joined the gaming industry aside from Sonys visible stance as a threat to PC gaming in the late 90's. 

Still pushing that ridiculous argument? The original Xbox and 360 were launched as gaming machines. Sony is the one that has been pushing their hardware as multimedia boxes.

I've grown an affinity towards MS this gen, but I want Sony to launch a new console this year. More competetition is good for everyone. Sony didn't realize they had competition in 2006 and they only got better to compete with MS.


Sony and Microsoft BOTH have multimedia machines, but the difference between Sony and Microsoft is that they dont force multimedia down your throat, its optional, secondary to the games. The term Xbox is no longer exclusive to consoles but is expanding to media devices Microsoft has a hand in.

You gotta understand multimedia services is actually profitable for MS since their hardware requires Live Gold to use those services. That encourages MS to push multimedia features and acquire more. For Sony, there clearly isn't much incentive to people using multimedia services so they aren't pushed as much.

It doesn't matter if the Xbox name is used outside of consoles or gaming. When they stop putting out quality games than your argument might have some validity. Sony didn't put out any noteworthy titles in 2012, but I'm not gonna say they aren't focused on games.



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ulieq on 27 January 2013
zorg1000 said:

i know this might seem like a crazy idea but could sony not release the ps4 until 2016 and be alright? Some people may say its reaching market saturation but i think it has alot of room for improvement in NA as Wii/360 are at roughly 40 million while PS3 isnt even at 25 million plus once it gets a cut to $200 it could see sales increase and another drop to $150 in 2015 could keep it a low cost alternative to wii u and nextbox. Another reason is that its close to the power as wii u and could get multiplat titles with it while the nextbox has to settle for 3rd party games that dont take advantage of the hardware except for exclusives. this would also allow sony to get a heads up on the comp for the following gen by releasing in 2016 while wii u and nextbox successors likely wont release until 2018 at the earliest. i doubt this scenario will happen but i think it would be interesting.


No, but I don't think Sony/Microsoft shoudl release consoles in 2013 since xbox2/ps3 are selling great.



reggin_bolas on 27 January 2013
exclusive_console said:
Well 2014 is the earliest PS4 will be released. 2015 seems good if they have best hardware by a good margin, like 50% performance over 720 as rumors suggest and yet affordable 499$. PS3 will be doing fine for 3-4yrs easily. This year is great with Ni Ko Kuni starting off.

I think when they release does not matter as long it is 50% powerful than the 720 and have good launch, start.


What are you smoking good Sir? 2013 is the earliest it will release, in the fall. 2014 is the latest or it will be screwed by Nextbox. I will not buy the PS4 if it comes out in 2015 I can gurantee you that. 



VGKing on 27 January 2013

No. They're releasing this year.



S.T.A.G.E. on 27 January 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
U guys keep saying it would be giving up market share to microsoft but thats not the point. These next 3 years would be to squeeze out as much profit as possible would be able to market it better to stay relevent against wii u/nextbox. Releasing in 2016 would give it a 1-2 year lead on the following gen.


You obviously do not understand Microsofts intentions with Sonys marketshare. Sony has to look after it like a dog because if not Microsoft will try to take them out and then monopolize the industry while dumbing everything down to specific to multimedia hubs over games. Multimedia is the very reason Microsoft joined the gaming industry aside from Sonys visible stance as a threat to PC gaming in the late 90's. 

Still pushing that ridiculous argument? The original Xbox and 360 were launched as gaming machines. Sony is the one that has been pushing their hardware as multimedia boxes.

I've grown an affinity towards MS this gen, but I want Sony to launch a new console this year. More competetition is good for everyone. Sony didn't realize they had competition in 2006 and they only got better to compete with MS.


Sony and Microsoft BOTH have multimedia machines, but the difference between Sony and Microsoft is that they dont force multimedia down your throat, its optional, secondary to the games. The term Xbox is no longer exclusive to consoles but is expanding to media devices Microsoft has a hand in.

You gotta understand multimedia services is actually profitable for MS since their hardware requires Live Gold to use those services. That encourages MS to push multimedia features and acquire more. For Sony, there clearly isn't much incentive to people using multimedia services so they aren't pushed as much.

It doesn't matter if the Xbox name is used outside of consoles or gaming. When they stop putting out quality games than your argument might have some validity. Sony didn't put out any noteworthy titles in 2012, but I'm not gonna say they aren't focused on games.


Free is more incentive than a paid service. Sony's marketplace is growing and the look is changing with it and so are the deals. Everything will come full circle with the PS4, but they are not pushing an end all be all multimedia service like Apple which Microsoft is desperate to emulate. Basically they are trying to kill both Apple and Sony with one stone (multimedia). 



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Mr Puggsly on 27 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
U guys keep saying it would be giving up market share to microsoft but thats not the point. These next 3 years would be to squeeze out as much profit as possible would be able to market it better to stay relevent against wii u/nextbox. Releasing in 2016 would give it a 1-2 year lead on the following gen.


You obviously do not understand Microsofts intentions with Sonys marketshare. Sony has to look after it like a dog because if not Microsoft will try to take them out and then monopolize the industry while dumbing everything down to specific to multimedia hubs over games. Multimedia is the very reason Microsoft joined the gaming industry aside from Sonys visible stance as a threat to PC gaming in the late 90's. 

Still pushing that ridiculous argument? The original Xbox and 360 were launched as gaming machines. Sony is the one that has been pushing their hardware as multimedia boxes.

I've grown an affinity towards MS this gen, but I want Sony to launch a new console this year. More competetition is good for everyone. Sony didn't realize they had competition in 2006 and they only got better to compete with MS.


Sony and Microsoft BOTH have multimedia machines, but the difference between Sony and Microsoft is that they dont force multimedia down your throat, its optional, secondary to the games. The term Xbox is no longer exclusive to consoles but is expanding to media devices Microsoft has a hand in.

You gotta understand multimedia services is actually profitable for MS since their hardware requires Live Gold to use those services. That encourages MS to push multimedia features and acquire more. For Sony, there clearly isn't much incentive to people using multimedia services so they aren't pushed as much.

It doesn't matter if the Xbox name is used outside of consoles or gaming. When they stop putting out quality games than your argument might have some validity. Sony didn't put out any noteworthy titles in 2012, but I'm not gonna say they aren't focused on games.


Free is more incentive than a paid service. Sony's marketplace is growing and the look is changing with it and so are the deals. Everything will come full circle with the PS4, but they are not pushing an end all be all multimedia service like Apple which Microsoft is desperate to emulate. Basically they are trying to kill both Apple and Sony with one stone (multimedia). 

Free is great. But the 360's non-gaming offerings are superior. Live Gold makes money on non-gaming content... PSN not so much. Once again, that's why MS pushes their console for games AND multimedia.

You always bring up crap that isn't even relevant to our discussion.
Yeah the PSN market place is getting better. Thank MS for that. They wouldn't have to work as hard if they were just competing with NIntendo.

MS is pushing "an end all be all multimedia machine?" Now according to you games aren't a priority at all. Does that mean they're gonna close all their studios?

The only thing Sony has been killing is themselves. All the money Sony lost and much of the success Xbox gained is primarily due to bad decisions made by Sony.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 27 January 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
U guys keep saying it would be giving up market share to microsoft but thats not the point. These next 3 years would be to squeeze out as much profit as possible would be able to market it better to stay relevent against wii u/nextbox. Releasing in 2016 would give it a 1-2 year lead on the following gen.


You obviously do not understand Microsofts intentions with Sonys marketshare. Sony has to look after it like a dog because if not Microsoft will try to take them out and then monopolize the industry while dumbing everything down to specific to multimedia hubs over games. Multimedia is the very reason Microsoft joined the gaming industry aside from Sonys visible stance as a threat to PC gaming in the late 90's. 

Still pushing that ridiculous argument? The original Xbox and 360 were launched as gaming machines. Sony is the one that has been pushing their hardware as multimedia boxes.

I've grown an affinity towards MS this gen, but I want Sony to launch a new console this year. More competetition is good for everyone. Sony didn't realize they had competition in 2006 and they only got better to compete with MS.


Sony and Microsoft BOTH have multimedia machines, but the difference between Sony and Microsoft is that they dont force multimedia down your throat, its optional, secondary to the games. The term Xbox is no longer exclusive to consoles but is expanding to media devices Microsoft has a hand in.

You gotta understand multimedia services is actually profitable for MS since their hardware requires Live Gold to use those services. That encourages MS to push multimedia features and acquire more. For Sony, there clearly isn't much incentive to people using multimedia services so they aren't pushed as much.

It doesn't matter if the Xbox name is used outside of consoles or gaming. When they stop putting out quality games than your argument might have some validity. Sony didn't put out any noteworthy titles in 2012, but I'm not gonna say they aren't focused on games.


Free is more incentive than a paid service. Sony's marketplace is growing and the look is changing with it and so are the deals. Everything will come full circle with the PS4, but they are not pushing an end all be all multimedia service like Apple which Microsoft is desperate to emulate. Basically they are trying to kill both Apple and Sony with one stone (multimedia). 

Free is great. But the 360's non-gaming offerings are superior. Live Gold makes money on non-gaming content... PSN not so much. Once again, that's why MS pushes their console for games AND multimedia.

You always bring up crap that isn't even relevant to our discussion.
Yeah the PSN market place is getting better. Thank MS for that. They wouldn't have to work as hard if they were just competing with NIntendo.

MS is pushing "an end all be all multimedia machine?" Now according to you games aren't a priority at all. Does that mean they're gonna close all their studios?

The only thing Sony has been killing is themselves. All the money Sony lost and much of the success Xbox gained is primarily due to bad decisions made by Sony.

Sony has been killing themselves and no one is denying that. They refuse to make competitive prices to competitors and revamp their designs completely to match customer satisfaction. They hold onto a level of quality that was at its peak in the 90's but since the rise of Apple times have changed. I have no loyalty to these companies even though I PREFER one to the other, Microsofts biggest achillies heel in the gaming industry is that they are primarily a mainstream entity which means less proper games as a primary seller but rather a few strong titles and a ton of commercial games and that comes second to their multimedia endeavors.



kolbykooz on 27 January 2013

That would give almost all the marketshare to Microsoft. Would be a terrible move. No one would wait for it either! As much as I hate Xbox, I would move to it.



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kolbykooz on 27 January 2013

Or better yet, they could just skip generation 8 all together! xD lol



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Mr Puggsly on 28 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
zorg1000 said:
U guys keep saying it would be giving up market share to microsoft but thats not the point. These next 3 years would be to squeeze out as much profit as possible would be able to market it better to stay relevent against wii u/nextbox. Releasing in 2016 would give it a 1-2 year lead on the following gen.


You obviously do not understand Microsofts intentions with Sonys marketshare. Sony has to look after it like a dog because if not Microsoft will try to take them out and then monopolize the industry while dumbing everything down to specific to multimedia hubs over games. Multimedia is the very reason Microsoft joined the gaming industry aside from Sonys visible stance as a threat to PC gaming in the late 90's. 

Still pushing that ridiculous argument? The original Xbox and 360 were launched as gaming machines. Sony is the one that has been pushing their hardware as multimedia boxes.

I've grown an affinity towards MS this gen, but I want Sony to launch a new console this year. More competetition is good for everyone. Sony didn't realize they had competition in 2006 and they only got better to compete with MS.


Sony and Microsoft BOTH have multimedia machines, but the difference between Sony and Microsoft is that they dont force multimedia down your throat, its optional, secondary to the games. The term Xbox is no longer exclusive to consoles but is expanding to media devices Microsoft has a hand in.

You gotta understand multimedia services is actually profitable for MS since their hardware requires Live Gold to use those services. That encourages MS to push multimedia features and acquire more. For Sony, there clearly isn't much incentive to people using multimedia services so they aren't pushed as much.

It doesn't matter if the Xbox name is used outside of consoles or gaming. When they stop putting out quality games than your argument might have some validity. Sony didn't put out any noteworthy titles in 2012, but I'm not gonna say they aren't focused on games.


Free is more incentive than a paid service. Sony's marketplace is growing and the look is changing with it and so are the deals. Everything will come full circle with the PS4, but they are not pushing an end all be all multimedia service like Apple which Microsoft is desperate to emulate. Basically they are trying to kill both Apple and Sony with one stone (multimedia). 

Free is great. But the 360's non-gaming offerings are superior. Live Gold makes money on non-gaming content... PSN not so much. Once again, that's why MS pushes their console for games AND multimedia.

You always bring up crap that isn't even relevant to our discussion.
Yeah the PSN market place is getting better. Thank MS for that. They wouldn't have to work as hard if they were just competing with NIntendo.

MS is pushing "an end all be all multimedia machine?" Now according to you games aren't a priority at all. Does that mean they're gonna close all their studios?

The only thing Sony has been killing is themselves. All the money Sony lost and much of the success Xbox gained is primarily due to bad decisions made by Sony.

Sony has been killing themselves and no one is denying that. They refuse to make competitive prices to competitors and revamp their designs completely to match customer satisfaction. They hold onto a level of quality that was at its peak in the 90's but since the rise of Apple times have changed. I have no loyalty to these companies even though I PREFER one to the other, Microsofts biggest achillies heel in the gaming industry is that they are primarily a mainstream entity which means less proper games as a primary seller but rather a few strong titles and a ton of commercial games and that comes second to their multimedia endeavors.

PS1 and PS2 were competitively priced at $299. They just went bat shit crazy on PS3.

 

I'm confused by your MS statements.

1. What is a, "proper game." How are they different from, "strong titles" and "commercial games." In my head it sounds like you're saying MS is just pushing games people actually buy.

2. I still don't understand how multimedia is the primary goal for MS, yet their games are at par or arguably better than Sony's. I've heard stories about MS spending a ton of money to push new games or a gaming peripheral to help move hardware. But I never heard them spending a mega budget to advertise multimedia features. This is where your logic falls apart.



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