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Jaywood2010 on 25 January 2013
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pezus said:
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Look at my new thread.  Not argueing about it anymore. Especially to someone who doesnt even own an xbox. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=153593

So you're not arguing anymore, yet you invite me to your new thread before saying I shouldn't be arguing because I don't own an Xbox? I own a PC, I have my brain and a set of eyes.


There is a reason gears sells 6m copies without bundling. 

Eh, all three Gears games were sold in one bundle or another. Shouldn't use that as a criteria for influence, because if you're hinting at what I think you are, "that" franchise is successful without bundling too (and also has its share of recent games looking to it for inspiration).

Heck, by that same principle, Call of Duty doesn't need a single bundle to wipe the floor with Gears in popularity, sales, and impact. But that's another story.

no it is not what I was hinting (although it is massivily bundled. still gets around 4m which is very good), and a Limited edition bundle is very differrent from a regular bundle.  I was simply saying that is is popular for a reason and that people buy it for that reason.   How many games can you say reach 6m without bundles?  Very few.




       

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Jaywood2010 on 25 January 2013
CGI-Quality said:
JayWood2010 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, all three Gears games were sold in one bundle or another. Shouldn't use that as a criteria for influence, because if you're hinting at what I think you are, "that" franchise is successful without bundling too (and also has its share of recent games looking to it for inspiration).

Heck, by that same principle, Call of Duty doesn't need a single bundle to wipe the floor with Gears in popularity, sales, and impact. But that's another story.

no it is not what I was hinting (although it is massivily bundled. still gets around 4m which is very good), and a Limited edition bundle is very differrent from a regular bundle.  I was simply saying that is is popular for a reason and that people buy it for that reason.   How many games can you say reach 6m without bundles?  Very few.

But you can't say "without bundles" and then talk about a series that has had bundles. They are irrelavnt to me personally, but cannot be ignored when sizing up sales. Popularity and impact are a whole other matter, and both Gears and Uncharted have had that (with or without bundling).


If you got rid of Gears limited edition bundle which is geared towards people who are buying the game anyways you would cut off what 100K maybe 200K?  Very little.  Not sure how many limited edition bundles they make but I do know it isnt much and it is 100$ more twhich means you are paying for the game and console.  And Im not making this into some competion with Uncharted as I said before you can argue which is better.  They are both amazing games.




       

dsgrue3 on 25 January 2013

1. Uncharted (The most influential game this generation)
2. Demon/Dark souls series
3. Assassin's Creed
4. Infamous
5. Little Big Planet



Jaywood2010 on 25 January 2013
CGI-Quality said:
JayWood2010 said:
CGI-Quality said:
JayWood2010 said:
CGI-Quality said:

Eh, all three Gears games were sold in one bundle or another. Shouldn't use that as a criteria for influence, because if you're hinting at what I think you are, "that" franchise is successful without bundling too (and also has its share of recent games looking to it for inspiration).

Heck, by that same principle, Call of Duty doesn't need a single bundle to wipe the floor with Gears in popularity, sales, and impact. But that's another story.

no it is not what I was hinting (although it is massivily bundled. still gets around 4m which is very good), and a Limited edition bundle is very differrent from a regular bundle.  I was simply saying that is is popular for a reason and that people buy it for that reason.   How many games can you say reach 6m without bundles?  Very few.

But you can't say "without bundles" and then talk about a series that has had bundles. They are irrelavnt to me personally, but cannot be ignored when sizing up sales. Popularity and impact are a whole other matter, and both Gears and Uncharted have had that (with or without bundling).


If you got rid of Gears limited edition bundle which is geared towards people who are buying the game anyways you would cut off what 100K maybe 200K?  Very little.  Not sure how many limited edition bundles they make but I do know it isnt much and it is 100$ more twhich means you are paying for the game and console.  And Im not making this into some competion with Uncharted as I said before you can argue which is better.  They are both amazing games.

 

Just another example of Gears bundling. We have no clue how much it's helped sales, but then, we don't for Uncharted either. This is why bundling shouldn't be used as a source for ammo in either direction. Gears has had success mainly on its own, but with bundles as well, just like Uncharted who has been bundled a bit more, but finds much of the success on its own.

Not using it as ammo.  You are reading way too much into this.  Im saying how many games can achieve 6m without bundles. And that bundle sold very few copies as Gears of War had already sold  well over 5m by the time that bundle came out.  Not sure how much gears 2 had sold by the time, but gears had sold 5m before gears 2 came out.




       

Jaywood2010 on 25 January 2013
CGI-Quality said:
JayWood2010 said:
CGI-Quality said:

 

Just another example of Gears bundling. We have no clue how much it's helped sales, but then, we don't for Uncharted either. This is why bundling shouldn't be used as a source for ammo in either direction. Gears has had success mainly on its own, but with bundles as well, just like Uncharted who has been bundled a bit more, but finds much of the success on its own.

Not using it as ammo.  You are reading way too much into this.  Im saying how many games can achieve 6m without bundles. And that bundle sold very few copies as Gears of War had already sold  well over 5m by the time that bundle came out.  Not sure how much gears 2 had sold by the time, but gears had sold 5m before gears 2 came out.

I think you're using the idea of bundling as a negative towards Gears. Most bundles are treated as preceived value. If people buy a system because they want the game it comes with, the package has done its job. Very different from a pack-in title, which outside of Forza 2 and Wii Sports, there haven't been many of this gen.

Please stop quoting me if you are constantly going to say childish or things that can easily be proved wrong.

Forza and Wii sports?  throw in Uncharted, Gran Turismo,, Little Big Planet,  and mario Kart which has all been massively bundled.  

Now stop.  i told you what I meant by it and you keep pushing me farther.




       

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Jaywood2010 on 25 January 2013
CGI-Quality said:
JayWood2010 said:
CGI-Quality said:
JayWood2010 said:
CGI-Quality said:

 

Just another example of Gears bundling. We have no clue how much it's helped sales, but then, we don't for Uncharted either. This is why bundling shouldn't be used as a source for ammo in either direction. Gears has had success mainly on its own, but with bundles as well, just like Uncharted who has been bundled a bit more, but finds much of the success on its own.

Not using it as ammo.  You are reading way too much into this.  Im saying how many games can achieve 6m without bundles. And that bundle sold very few copies as Gears of War had already sold  well over 5m by the time that bundle came out.  Not sure how much gears 2 had sold by the time, but gears had sold 5m before gears 2 came out.

I think you're using the idea of bundling as a negative towards Gears. Most bundles are treated as preceived value. If people buy a system because they want the game it comes with, the package has done its job. Very different from a pack-in title, which outside of Forza 2 and Wii Sports, there haven't been many of this gen.

Please stop quoting me if you are constantly going to say childish or things that can easily be proved wrong.

Forza and Wii sports?  throw in Uncharted, Gran Turismo,, Little Big Planet,  and mario Kart which has all been massively bundled.  

Now stop.  i told you what I meant by it and you keep pushing me farther.

I don't think you understand what a pack-in title is. Forza 2 and Wii Sports, at a time, were sold with every version of the console you can buy. The other titles have not been in that situation. Also, you should look up the word "childish" again, as nothing I've said has been that. Frankly, this makes number two that you've had to say something of this nature, proving that you are having a hard time simply disagreeing. Don't debate if that's what it comes down to.

I apologize, I didnt see the pack in title the first time I read it.  That is my fault and I agree with you so I apologize.




       

Jaywood2010 on 25 January 2013
pezus said:
JayWood2010 said:
CGI-Quality said:
JayWood2010 said:
pezus said:
JayWood2010 said:


Look at my new thread.  Not argueing about it anymore. Especially to someone who doesnt even own an xbox. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=153593

So you're not arguing anymore, yet you invite me to your new thread before saying I shouldn't be arguing because I don't own an Xbox? I own a PC, I have my brain and a set of eyes.


There is a reason gears sells 6m copies without bundling. 

Eh, all three Gears games were sold in one bundle or another. Shouldn't use that as a criteria for influence, because if you're hinting at what I think you are, "that" franchise is successful without bundling too (and also has its share of recent games looking to it for inspiration).

Heck, by that same principle, Call of Duty doesn't need a single bundle to wipe the floor with Gears in popularity, sales, and impact. But that's another story.

no it is not what I was hinting (although it is massivily bundled. still gets around 4m which is very good), and a Limited edition bundle is very differrent from a regular bundle.  I was simply saying that is is popular for a reason and that people buy it for that reason.   How many games can you say reach 6m without bundles?  Very few.

As I was saying...CoD and Gears can not be compared. CoD is a monster for a reason, and everyone wants to be that monster.


im not argueing that call of duty isnt as influential as gears and never have.   They both have been and you can argue the two all day. You are making an argument out of nothing.  I said gears is more influential than uncharted.  




       

sub-zero-TM on 25 January 2013

1. Uncharted
2. Mass Effect
3. Gears of War
4. Littlebigplanet
5. Infamous



the2real4mafol on 25 January 2013

1. Heavy Rain
2. LA noire
3. Uncharted
4. Sleeping Dogs
5. Little Big Planet

Borderlands, Bioshock, Minecraft, Dead Space and Assassin's Creed were also great new IP's from this generation. Roll on the next gen!



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jamesmarkus87 on 25 January 2013

1. Mass Effect (standouts: 1 , 2)
2. Assassin's Creed (standouts: II , Brotherhood , III)
3. Uncharted (standouts: Drake's Fortune , Among Thieves)
4. Dead Space (standouts: 1 , 2)
5. Gears of War (standouts: 1 , 3)