| spurgeonryan said:
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Wah wah wah. Stop crying because people disagree with you.
I dont necessarily agree with the arguments against all the troll threads, but I can at least understand why people care. Pull your head out of the hole.
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| spurgeonryan said:
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Wah wah wah. Stop crying because people disagree with you.
I dont necessarily agree with the arguments against all the troll threads, but I can at least understand why people care. Pull your head out of the hole.
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| spurgeonryan said: When did I say I did not want people to quote me? When did I say I was upset? All I said, is why would he waste his time quoted me when I would never give anything he has to say one seconds thought. Seems pointless to me. Anything else Daddy? |
"Why even quote me? I would not agree with you if my face was on fire and you said water would put it out."
Your words not mine. If you think that doesn't sound like youre upset then I don't know what does. Why did he quote you? Because he didn't agree. You act like you don't want him to quote you but if that is the case then don't comment at all. You act like his comment was pointless but I'd argue that yours has been pointless bickering with someone because god forbid someone quote spurge and disagree.
"Anything else Daddy?"
Yes actually. The First rule is we do not talk about.......
| VGKing said: ANYONE is allowed to post negative news or posts about a company. THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S TROLLING. Like I said before, ther is a difference. Threads are meant for discussions and if you disagree with my view point then so be it. If we weren't allowed to post negative news about our least favorite company then somone like Kowencki would get banned every time he makes a thread. It's no secret that bad Sony news ends up being posted by him. I'm fine with that. I've learned to look at the news, not at the user. I don't take these things personally, you shouldn't either. |
I'm not saying there is anything necessarily wrong with posting negative news, I just find it annoying that there are double standards of users on this site that will cheerleader negative threads for some companies then whine when it happens to their favourite companies. If I thought it was trolling that is my opinion, that's doesn't make me wrong for thinking that as it's subjective. I didn't report the thread to the mods though as it's clear given past precedents that you haven't crossed a line that makes it likely a mod would intervene. I happen to think your thread included no valid evidence or analysis to warrant your findings so will only produce arguement which are of no benefit.
What you posted was a purely a negative personal opinion piece by the way, not news. I don't take anything said in a anonymous forum personally, your life would be pretty crap if you did.
Are they allowed? All I can say is that you have to be ready for the possible consequences if you do. This should be a nice, long, and fun post.
First off, let me start at the beginning. Earlier in my VGChartz career I wrote quite a few joke threads ( I don't call them troll threads because I didn't have the intention of pissing people off). Whether they were funny or not depends on who you talk to. These threads, sarcastic comments, and several jokes containing irony are kind of what helped me gain some "popularity" on this site. This makes me a bit of an expert on joke threads in general and makes me a guy to talk to about the threads listed in the OP. I read them all and I'll give you my opinion on all of them.
MBP's thread - I look at this as being a parody of the user reviews done on the other sites. I also thought that it was a subtle jab at one of the users on this site that gave out a lot of 0/10 scores... I don't know if this user who I will not name was the one that reported mbp or not. Personally I didn't find it offensive or funny. The problem was that it was a bit too accurate of a portrayal of some of those user reviews on other sites. I wouldn't have locked it. All of this being said, I can understand why it was locked. As Carl pointed out earlier in the thread, MBP had started a few recent threads that pushed hot buttons and the moderator who locked the thread probably thought that enough was enough.
Rol's thread - It was him pretending to make an unbiased review and poking fun at how biased he actually is. Not his best work but clever enough for me to get a chuckle. Now I can understand to some of the newcomers that Rol might look like a jerk here, but for every thread that he makes criticizing Sony, he usually makes three that are critical towards Nintendo or their 3rd party library. I wouldn't lock this thread either.
Galaki's thread - I actually really like the Mole Kart thread. It was a parody of Rol's parody and was really about nothing. The "I've played neither" line really cracked me up. Now I can hear some people claim that stuff like this isn't necessary and is spam but you could argue the same thing about a Seinfeld episode. I wouldn't lock this either.
In the end, I am not one for locking joke threads unless the intent is bad. Let's say you are a person that does hit and run posts constantly putting down Microsoft and then you start making joke threads at Micosoft's expense just to anger MS fans. Then you'd probably be moderated.
There's an old saying that if a joke doesn't piss someone off that it probably isn't funny. I'm not sure if that's true, but it seems to be the case on this site.
Also, Jay Wood I don't think that anyone was attacking your team of reviewers or any of that. It's just that many Unbiased Reviews have popped up recently and people parody the hot topics. Cracked and Mad magazine always parody the latest blockbusters not because they are bad but because they are popular. You should be happy that your series is taking off. I actually was thinking about making an Unbiased Review on 007 Legends before these 3 popped up but thought against it. I was going to talk about how it was the greatest game ever made (which obviously isn't the case). Would that have been funny or not? Who knows?
In the end, I have to say that people really need to lighten up. Nowadays people get mad at me when I tell a joke because I wouldn't get away with it if I was a moderator. Wrong. I've been doing it for years. It is okay to playfully poke fun at things as long as you're not ignorant about it. If this site was all about number crunching and no jokes being allowed then I wouldn't want to be here. Everyone, sit back relax, and have a good time.
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Tag "Sorry man. Someone pissed in my Wheaties."
"There are like ten games a year that sell over a million units." High Voltage CEO - Eric Nofsinger
| amp316 said: Are they allowed? All I can say is that you have to be ready for the possible consequences if you do. This should be a nice, long, and fun post. First off, let me start at the beginning. Earlier in my VGChartz career I wrote quite a few joke threads ( I don't call them troll threads because I didn't have the intention of pissing people off). Whether they were funny or not depends on who you talk to. These threads, sarcastic comments, and several jokes containing irony are kind of what helped me gain some "popularity" on this site. This makes me a bit of an expert on joke threads in general and makes me a guy to talk to about the threads listed in the OP. I read them all and I'll give you my opinion on all of them. MBP's thread - I look at this as being a parody of the user reviews done on the other sites. I also thought that it was a subtle jab at one of the users on this site that gave out a lot of 0/10 scores... I don't know if this user who I will not name was the one that reported mbp or not. Personally I didn't find it offensive or funny. The problem was that it was a bit too accurate of a portrayal of some of those user reviews on other sites. I wouldn't have locked it. All of this being said, I can understand why it was locked. As Carl pointed out earlier in the thread, MBP had started a few recent threads that pushed hot buttons and the moderator who locked the thread probably thought that enough was enough. Rol's thread - It was him pretending to make an unbiased review and poking fun at how biased he actually is. Not his best work but clever enough for me to get a chuckle. Now I can understand to some of the newcomers that Rol might look like a jerk here, but for every thread that he makes criticizing Sony, he usually makes three that are critical towards Nintendo or their 3rd party library. I wouldn't lock this thread either. Galaki's thread - I actually really like the Mole Kart thread. It was a parody of Rol's parody and was really about nothing. The "I've played neither" line really cracked me up. Now I can hear some people claim that stuff like this isn't necessary and is spam but you could argue the same thing about a Seinfeld episode. I wouldn't lock this either. In the end, I am not one for locking joke threads unless the intent is bad. Let's say you are a person that does hit and run posts constantly putting down Microsoft and then you start making joke threads at Micosoft's expense just to anger MS fans. Then you'd probably be moderated. There's an old saying that if a joke doesn't piss someone off that it probably isn't funny. I'm not sure if that's true, but it seems to be the case on this site. Also, Jay Wood I don't think that anyone was attacking your team of reviewers or any of that. It's just that many Unbiased Reviews have popped up recently and people parody the hot topics. Cracked and Mad magazine always parody the latest blockbusters not because they are bad but because they are popular. You should be happy that your series is taking off. I actually was thinking about making an Unbiased Review on 007 Legends before these 3 popped up but thought against it. I was going to talk about how it was the greatest game ever made (which obviously isn't the case). Would that have been funny or not? Who knows? In the end, I have to say that people really need to lighten up. Nowadays people get mad at me when I tell a joke because I wouldn't get away with it if I was a moderator. Wrong. I've been doing it for years. It is okay to playfully poke fun at things as long as you're not ignorant about it. If this site was all about number crunching and no jokes being allowed then I wouldn't want to be here. Everyone, sit back relax, and have a good time. |
Thank you! That was the by far the best answer I've heard. I just wanted moderators to give me an answer or opinions about this issue. I appreciate the response and the length lol Kind of surprised not many moderators has came in here to answer but I appreciate the ones who has.
slowmo said:
What you posted was a purely a negative personal opinion piece by the way, not news. I don't take anything said in a anonymous forum personally, your life would be pretty crap if you did. |
Of course the thread didn't include evidence. This isn't the FBI. This is a forum. Threads are meant for discussions and my thread specifically was speculation on the latest rumors about where Microsoft seems to be heading.
VGKing said:
Of course the thread didn't include evidence. This isn't the FBI. This is a forum. Threads are meant for discussions and my thread specifically was speculation on the latest rumors about where Microsoft seems to be heading. |
Which you could easily speculate in any of the numerous threads on the subject but that's just my opinion.
Ryan and Carl, please stop it.
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slowmo said:
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Not really. The latest rumors are mostly discussing specs. That's not what my thread was about.
I thought my opinion deserved its own thread and so I made one. Deal with it.
Time to lock this thread up. Jay i think Amp's response was satisfactory. Also it is not that we don't get satire and sarcasm as some people think but it becomes hard to digest it at times. Lot of people end up watching Stephen Colbert satire as if he is actually serious. Now that could be person fault for being a simpleton or not getting in on the joke.
My problem is not that joke threads or people behind them but all round double standards of people who appreciate these threads. They cry foul when the joke is directed at them but cheer on otherwise. Not everyone is such though so can't really blame fans of individual platforms for what others do.
Also we don't just make doom threads and count pixels for those who think that way you are clearly mistaken. Cheers and i hope the community becomes more friendly as the year progresses. Got some really great members in 2012 and looking forward to more.