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BenVTrigger on 21 January 2013

The more I read about this next gen consoles the more I realize we cant purely judge them on the specs alone. It sounds like MS and Sony are both doing some very custom stuff under the hood, and even some possibly revolutionary stuff especially in the Durangos set up.



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Nsanity on 21 January 2013

I'm hearing that these specs are 9 months old.



NobleTeam360 on 21 January 2013
Busted said:
as i don't fully understand what this means i've said it before and i'll say it again, no 4k 120fps = no buy, well see later this year.


Then I'm guessing your skipping this generation of hardware then. 



Busted on 21 January 2013
michael_stutzer said:
Taken from Neogaf:

Orbit : 1.8 tflops
Durango : 1.2 tflops
Wii u: 1 flop

Seems reasonable.

Now that's what i'm talking about, substancial difference.

 

--- For you people, can orbis do at least 1080p 120fps?
 



1337 Gamer on 21 January 2013
ethomaz said:
1337 Gamer said:
Sounds very possible. I hope that they go for a faster clocked Quad core rather than an 8 core jaguar. That would be much better in terms of usable power. And an HD7770 or so sounds about right for a console. I think the PS3 will probably be a little bit stronger in terms of hardware but i SERIOUSLY doubt it will be a 7900 series GPU. For $400 or so its just NOT happening not when you have to factor in all the other hardware. POSSIBLY a low/medium 7800 series but i doubt much more than that.

The 7900M is a 7800.

Anyway the chip itself have low cost... less than $50... the others components that make a console expensive.l

Where are you getting that less than $50 for a mobile 7900m series GPU? To get one of those in a laptop is a several hundred dollar upgrade. I understand that those companies need to make a profit but I highly doubt it only costs $50 for a high end mobile GPU. Unless you show me some reputable figures Im not buying that number.



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ethomaz on 21 January 2013

Busted said:

--- For you people, can orbis do at least 1080p 120fps?

Yes.



ninjablade on 21 January 2013
BenVTrigger said:
The more I read about this next gen consoles the more I realize we cant purely judge them on the specs alone. It sounds like MS and Sony are both doing some very custom stuff under the hood, and even some possibly revolutionary stuff especially in the Durangos set up.

it would be funny if durangos special move engine data delivers a kaioken-X2 to give it the edga against orbis but the down side is it will take a long time to master for developers.

 

 



ethomaz on 21 January 2013

1337 Gamer said:

Where are you getting that less than $50 for a mobile 7900m series GPU? To get one of those in a laptop is a several hundred dollar upgrade. I understand that those companies need to make a profit but I highly doubt it only costs $50 for a high end mobile GPU. Unless you show me some reputable figures Im not buying that number.

That was the cost for each part in the last gen GPU in 55nm and 40nm... the 7900M chip uses a 28nm process... so even cheaper... I can't see any AMD GPU in 28nm costing more than $50.

Even the huge and expensive GTX 285 (GT200, 500mm^2) cost less than $90... and NVIDIA sold the videocard per $350 in the market.

 

Anyway I expect the CPU + GPU + ESRAM + "Special Sauces" of Durango to be less than 250mm^2 in 28nm... not a huge chip.



TheBardsSong on 21 January 2013

I'm glad to see it can perform one Mothers Against Drunk Driving per clock cycle.



1337 Gamer on 21 January 2013
ethomaz said:

1337 Gamer said:

Where are you getting that less than $50 for a mobile 7900m series GPU? To get one of those in a laptop is a several hundred dollar upgrade. I understand that those companies need to make a profit but I highly doubt it only costs $50 for a high end mobile GPU. Unless you show me some reputable figures Im not buying that number.

That was the cost for each part in the last gen GPU in 55nm and 40nm... the 7900M chip uses a 28nm process... so even cheaper... I can't see any AMD GPU in 28nm costing more than $50.

Even the huge and expensive GTX 285 (GT200, 500mm^2) cost less than $90... and NVIDIA sold the videocard per $350 in the market.

 

Anyway I expect the CPU + GPU + ESRAM + "Special Sauces" of Durango to be less than 250mm^2 in 28nm... not a huge chip.


That chart is wrong.. Atleast in terms of the price point of those GPUs. THe GTX 285 cost much more than $350 back when it was released and even looking at those charts to release the card to the consumer it cost them $163.46 to manufacture everything. Yes i know that was a larger Die in terms of mm^2 but even so to actually build the card with the memory and other necessary parts and custom heatsinks and what not your looking at well over $100. Far more than the $50 your specified. A GPU needs much more than just the silicon die.



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