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1. Mario
2. Pokemon
3. Zelda

This is pretty much a fact.



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Pineapple said:
NintendoPie said:
1. Wii Series (Current Gen Sales.)
2. Mario
3. Pokemon
Simple as that.

It might be that simple, if Mario hadn't sold more than the Wii series this generation.

Wii Series is one of the most memorable among consumers for the Wii, I would say. That plus it's sales are enough to put it past Mario. (I also think Mario had more games in total than the Wii Series.)



newwil7l said:
tbone51 said:
Depends... I say Japan is Animal Crossing. Just think if they release a new one every two years on handhelds. I let you have 10secs................
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Zelda is the most popular after Pokemon but SSB is a game that not even Nintendo fans enjoy. But i think we all are forgeting one major one????

"Wii" as in Wii Fit, Wii Fit+, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Resorts!!!

If that dont count, Maybe DK, also if MK counts on its own then its # 1 after pokemon


I would argue that Mario Kart has become bigger than Pokemon,and even Main Mario games.



This is true cuz your looking at Mario Kart Wii! Now look at pokemon red/blue, same sales (close), now MK DS the second best MK, now look at gold/silver, Same sales (close), Next MK doesn't compare with pokemon D/P, B/W, or R/S. Not only that but the remakes made over 10mil each. Also they have 5 different third installments! Pokemon>MK. But MK is growing very big no doubt



NintendoPie said:
Pineapple said:
NintendoPie said:
1. Wii Series (Current Gen Sales.)
2. Mario
3. Pokemon
Simple as that.

It might be that simple, if Mario hadn't sold more than the Wii series this generation.

Wii Series is one of the most memorable among consumers for the Wii, I would say. That plus it's sales are enough to put it past Mario. (I also think Mario had more games in total than the Wii Series.)

That's no definitive argument. You could just as well say that Mario the most memorable games. I'd guess you'd have far more people agreeing with you on that. You can't just add something to one side and not the other.

It really isn't "simple as that".



Pineapple said:

That's no definitive argument. You could just as well say that Mario the most memorable games. I'd guess you'd have far more people agreeing with you on that. You can't just add something to one side and not the other.

It really isn't "simple as that".

For this generation (and with Wii Series' "small" amount of titles) I would say it's the biggest Nintendo Franchise.

However, Mario is the biggest franchise overall. Just for you I'll remake my list:

1.) Mario 2.) Wii Series 3.) Pokemon



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the_dengle said:
spurgeonryan said:
If we include pokemon. Then yes. Obviously.

Zelda is not really though is it? We only get one game every so often.

Not so. For most of the 2000s we got a new game every year. There's been a bit of a dry spell since Spirit Tracks was released because of increasing development times. Nintendo seems to be training up Grezzo to reduce the time between releases again.

2000 -- Majora's Mask
2001 -- Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons
2002 -- Link to the Past GBA remake/Four Swords
2003 -- Wind Waker
2004 -- Four Swords Adventures
2005 -- Minish Cap
2006 -- Twilight Princess
2007 -- Phantom Hourglass
2009 -- Spirit Tracks

It's a regular series, but not really an "annual" one. It's just in a slump that will likely turn around soon; I expect 3DS Zelda this year by Grezzo, 3DS and Wii U Zelda next year by Nintendo, 3DS Zelda the year after by Grezzo...

How come you left out Skyward Sword?

But yeah, Grezzo is a talented studio.  I'm betting they're currently working on remaking Majora's Mask for 3DS just as they did with Ocarina of Time.  The perfect game to spike US sales.  We love 3D Zelda over here.  We'll know if it's happening at E3.



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Busted said:
Can someone explain me how is pokemon not a nintendo franchise?


Nintendo doesn't wholly own Game Freak. Only about 49%, if my memory serves me right.



tbone51 said:
newwil7l said:
tbone51 said:
Depends... I say Japan is Animal Crossing. Just think if they release a new one every two years on handhelds. I let you have 10secs................
......
......
......
. . . . ......

Zelda is the most popular after Pokemon but SSB is a game that not even Nintendo fans enjoy. But i think we all are forgeting one major one????

"Wii" as in Wii Fit, Wii Fit+, Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Resorts!!!

If that dont count, Maybe DK, also if MK counts on its own then its # 1 after pokemon


I would argue that Mario Kart has become bigger than Pokemon,and even Main Mario games.



This is true cuz your looking at Mario Kart Wii! Now look at pokemon red/blue, same sales (close), now MK DS the second best MK, now look at gold/silver, Same sales (close), Next MK doesn't compare with pokemon D/P, B/W, or R/S. Not only that but the remakes made over 10mil each. Also they have 5 different third installments! Pokemon>MK. But MK is growing very big no doubt



But this current gen Mario Kart slammed Pokemon in sales.

NintendoPie said:
Pineapple said:

That's no definitive argument. You could just as well say that Mario the most memorable games. I'd guess you'd have far more people agreeing with you on that. You can't just add something to one side and not the other.

It really isn't "simple as that".

For this generation (and with Wii Series' "small" amount of titles) I would say it's the biggest Nintendo Franchise.

However, Mario is the biggest franchise overall. Just for you I'll remake my list:

1.) Mario 2.) Wii Series 3.) Pokemon

Mario has sold more this generation, and has a larger amount of games.

The Wii series has 7 games in it.

Wii Sports
Wii Sports Resorts
Wii Fit
Wii Fit Plus
Wii Play
Wii Party
Wii Music

Wii Music isn't much of a success. Wii Play is the tech demo for the controller, and Wii Play is easily negated by Mario Party 8.

Your claim is - essentially - that Wii Sports and Wii Fit, along with their two sequels,  are larger than the entire Mario franchise for the 7th generation.

 

Putting the Wii series above Pokemon for lifetime is just as insane. Let me point this out. For the GBA, Pokemon sold three times as much as the highest selling non-Pokemon title. From slightly before the launch of the GBC and up to the launch of the DS, Nintendo's handhelds practically were the Pokemon machines.

Add to that the fact that Pokemon has sold more than the Wii series, and it's absolutely ludicrous to put a franchise that lasted for 4 years as bigger than the franchise that can easily be claimed to have been kept Nintendo alive, relevant and profitable for the better part of a decade.



Pineapple said:

Mario has sold more this generation, and has a larger amount of games.

The Wii series has 7 games in it.

Wii Sports
Wii Sports Resorts
Wii Fit
Wii Fit Plus
Wii Play
Wii Party
Wii Music

Wii Music isn't much of a success. Wii Play is the tech demo for the controller, and Wii Play is easily negated by Mario Party 8.

Your claim is - essentially - that Wii Sports and Wii Fit, along with their two sequels,  are larger than the entire Mario franchise for the 7th generation.

 

Putting the Wii series above Pokemon for lifetime is just as insane. Let me point this out. For the GBA, Pokemon sold three times as much as the highest selling non-Pokemon title. From slightly before the launch of the GBC and up to the launch of the DS, Nintendo's handhelds practically were the Pokemon machines.

@Underlined That's what I'm trying to say. The Wii Series, based off of it's "small" amount of games, sold/was recognized not neccessarily better, but  at least equal to the amount of Mario.

@Bolded "For this generation..." I took that from my original post.