didn´t we ban threads about patcher?

Well Pachter has to be right as some point with the amount of predictions he makes.

So if you are going to bet on his number it is probably the best one to bet on.

Do people thing the Wii U is going to sell what the Wii did? 50 million seems about right IMO.

oh ok, so you mean by the end of 2013 in NA?  doesn't seem like a good bet.

It isn't lol it's more of a bet for the sake of betting. I wanna lose my bet virginity.

Nothing that would make a difference to them. It has been well documented how much Japan hates games or consoles from the West. Or have different standards for Japanese consoles versus "outsider" consoles. For example the Xbox cannot be black because that is a bad color in Japanese culture. Yet it's fine on the PS2 because Sony is a Japanese company. It doesn't matter what games you put out on a console if the people are too bigoted to buy the console. Here is a good article that goes over a lot of it, and even it doesn't cover everything MS did with the 360.

But this is taking away from the original point. It really doesn't matter what Japan thinks of the 360 or why MS cannot make a dent there. Nintendo doesn't have that issue and thus it won't affect the WiiU.

I don't think many people thought it would. Pachter's "prediction" is just way too small.

I personally think that Microsoft may have been a little too arrogant in their appraoch. I mean that burger/Bill gates banner is absolutley terrible. It's like saying "Hi! XBOX is American! Buy us!" They overstressed the fact that this was an American made console and didn't have enough games to appeal to Japanese consumers. This didn't help with Tales and FF being superior on the PS3 versions. Not to mention that with all the shooters it has, calling it primarily a shooterbox isn't that far off.

What people have to realize is that Japan is a very awkward market and it does have its tendency to prefer domestic companies. Kinect wasn't big in Japan because of living space issues and all. I mean even the latest Worldwide phenominon Gangnam style only charted #22. Was that only becuase of anti-korean feelings? I don't think so, and I'm Korean. There is a very specific attitude that Japan wants people to have. The "chill", "dudebro" isn't one of them.

I'll have to read it later, the read is quite lengthy, but the 360 was not black, at least the first one.  MS in terms of games doesn't have anything to offer the Japanese.  MS is primarily a western catering company which does not appeal to the Japanese.  They offer relentless amounts of shooters which the Japanese have low interest in.  Also, Apple is an American company but has found huge success in Japan.  Although arbitrary, I think MS has earned the stigma that has attached itself to it in Japan and would take a whole lot shaking to get rid of it.

If my prediction was in line with Pachter's, I'd change it immediately to avoid inevitable embarassment.