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CGI-Quality said:
pezus said:
First rule of PC gaming: Never buy Alienware

Seconded. Too costly and better off building your own.

Laptop?

I wish Alienware still made the m11x. That little thing was great.



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pezus said:
Player1x3 said:

Ha, nice spin argument 

Let's see then:

1. More power Not neccesarly 
2. Costs less money Same as above
3. Is upgradableFair enough
4. Better coolingYou can buy cooling accesories for a lap top and it could work almost 24/7
5. Supports bigger and cheaper hard drives (and much more of them) You can use extrenal HDD for laptops.
6. More connectivity optionsMobility>Connectivity

=> Much better for gaming Subjective





Gaming specific laptops such as Alienware's are much to pricey for what you are getting. As others have said, you are much better off building a desktop.

If you insist on a laptop, then I recommend you look for one that carries the AMD A10 APU. Best performance/price ratio.



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Player1x3 said:
pezus said:
Player1x3 said:

Ha, nice spin argument 

Let's see then:

1. More power Not neccesarly 
2. Costs less money Same as above
3. Is upgradableFair enough
4. Better coolingYou can buy cooling accesories for a lap top and it could work almost 24/7
5. Supports bigger and cheaper hard drives (and much more of them) You can use extrenal HDD for laptops.
6. More connectivity optionsMobility>Connectivity

=> Much better for gaming Subjective



And you were mentioning spinning... Ha ha ha! You're a funny guy. Obviously a little clueless, but funny! 





pezus said:
Player1x3 said:
pezus said:

Huh, a better question would be: Name me 1 disadvantage of PCs over laptops (portability excluded).


Price

Come again? 
Where in the world does a gaming PC cost more than a gaming laptop?


My local Media Markt when I was in Germany



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Hynad said:
Player1x3 said:
pezus said:
Player1x3 said:

Ha, nice spin argument 

Let's see then:

1. More power Not neccesarly 
2. Costs less money Same as above
3. Is upgradableFair enough
4. Better coolingYou can buy cooling accesories for a lap top and it could work almost 24/7
5. Supports bigger and cheaper hard drives (and much more of them) You can use extrenal HDD for laptops.
6. More connectivity optionsMobility>Connectivity

=> Much better for gaming Subjective



And you were mentioning spinning... Ha ha ha! You're a funny guy. Obviously a little clueless, but funny! 



Thanks :) I think you're quite entertaining as well !



A hardcore gaming laptop isn't worth it imo. When you are home, might as well play on a desktop, and when you are on the go, your laptop will be severly limited unless its plugged in to an outlet.

As others have said. Look up some tutorials on building a PC, it really isn't hard at all. Originally mine cost me $350 and it could run most games fine on high settings on my 1600x900 monitor. But even if you are looking for the best, after I upgraded graphics cards to a 7850 my total cost is $500 and I can run any game, even battlefield 3, maxed on on my new 1080p monitor. Then get a decent laptop for $500-$600. It will be able to handle casual gaming, the type you might do on the go. Heck my $500 hp laptop from a year ago can even run skyrim on medium on battery power if I really wanted to play that on the go. 

You will still be saving money when compared to a top of the line gaming laptop, and your desktop will smoke anything that costs under $2000. Also wait for deals, especially on laptops and graphics cards. I waited for a promotion and got a free $100 gift card with my laptop. And my graphics card I got for around $50 under msrp along with a rebate. Nowadays they are giving away lots of big games with top of the line graphics card. Especially AMD ones. Just be patient and you can save a lot of money.



Player1x3 said:
pezus said:
Player1x3 said:

Ha, nice spin argument 

Let's see then:

1. More power Not neccesarly 
2. Costs less money Same as above
3. Is upgradableFair enough
4. Better coolingYou can buy cooling accesories for a lap top and it could work almost 24/7
5. Supports bigger and cheaper hard drives (and much more of them) You can use extrenal HDD for laptops.
6. More connectivity optionsMobility>Connectivity

=> Much better for gaming Subjective



1. Yes, necessarily. A good gaming desktop can have a kilowatt PSU. Don't even dream about that on a laptop.

2. Costs less money. Period.

3. You accepted that.

4. It doesn't matter what you buy. You can't get internal cooling; that is, you can't cool components separately, which is what cooling is all about. Also, there's water (or even liquid N if you're crazy) cooling. Even with the inferior (performance wise) components that laptops have, they run hotter, because everything is crammed into a small space.

5. Internal 3.5" SATA is cheaper than an external drive. Plus, where's the mobility if you have to carry around a 1 meter cable and an extra hard drive?

6. I honestly don't know why mobility > connectivity. But to be fair, I also don't quite understand the original point.

=> Much better performance. Objective.



           

enrageorange said:

A hardcore gaming laptop isn't worth it imo. When you are home, might as well play on a desktop, and when you are on the go, your laptop will be severly limited unless its plugged in to an outlet.

As others have said. Look up some tutorials on building a PC, it really isn't hard at all. Originally mine cost me $350 and it could run most games fine on high settings on my 1600x900 monitor. But even if you are looking for the best, after I upgraded graphics cards to a 7850 my total cost is $500 and I can run any game, even battlefield 3, maxed on on my new 1080p monitor. Then get a decent laptop for $500-$600. It will be able to handle casual gaming, the type you might do on the go. Heck my $500 hp laptop from a year ago can even run skyrim on medium on battery power if I really wanted to play that on the go. 

You will still be saving money when compared to a top of the line gaming PC, and your desktop will smoke anything that costs under $2000. Also wait for deals, especially on laptops and graphics cards. I waited for a promotion and got a free $100 gift card with my laptop. And my graphics card I got for around $50 under msrp along with a rebate. Nowadays they are giving away lots of big games with top of the line graphics card. Especially AMD ones. Just be patient and you can save a lot of money.



thanks for such a long/detailed response But i want it to be portable, mostly because of the following reasons .I dont want it to be fixed at home .I want to be able to go with it to a friends house and play LAN mp .I want to play at work .I want to play modern games (DOLPHIN included) at work



ultima said:
Player1x3 said:
pezus said:
Player1x3 said:

Ha, nice spin argument 

Let's see then:

1. More power Not neccesarly 
2. Costs less money Same as above
3. Is upgradableFair enough
4. Better coolingYou can buy cooling accesories for a lap top and it could work almost 24/7
5. Supports bigger and cheaper hard drives (and much more of them) You can use extrenal HDD for laptops.
6. More connectivity optionsMobility>Connectivity

=> Much better for gaming Subjective



1. Yes, necessarily. A good gaming desktop can have a kilowatt PSU. Don't even dream about that on a laptop.

2. Costs less money. Period.

3. You accepted that.

4. It doesn't matter what you buy. You can't get internal cooling; that is, you can't cool components separately, which is what cooling is all about. Also, there's water (or even liquid N if you're crazy) cooling. Even with the inferior (performance wise) components that laptops have, they run hotter, because everything is crammed into a small space.

5. Internal 3.5" SATA is cheaper than an external drive. Plus, where's the mobility if you have to carry around a 1 meter cable and an extra hard drive?

6. I honestly don't know why mobility > connectivity. But to be fair, I also don't quite understand the original point.

=> Much better performance. Objective.

1. Funny how you use the words ''could'' and  ''necessairly in the same point. Epic contradiction right there lol xD. If something COULD happen , its not necessairy

2. Wow, great argument, I am convinced

4. You dont need all that stuff on lap top. Laptops consume less power and thus dont overheat as much as PCs. But my point was that a cooling device on a laptop works just fine. What PC has is irrelevant actually.

5. Laptops do have a built in HDD's too, you know? You can use external only at home if you want, or you can bring them with you on a trip. 1 meter cable or not, laptops will always be billion times more moble than any PC.

6.Well then sorry, I cant help you :/

Another great argument there