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Would you release a new PS or Xbox in 2013?

Yes it's time for a new PS. 84 35.00%
 
Yes it's time for a new Xbox. 74 30.83%
 
Nope, I would stick to the PS3 10 year plan. 65 27.08%
 
Nope, I would wait until ... 17 7.08%
 
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X-Factor11 on 10 January 2013

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sales2099 on 10 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
Well MS has the right state of mind. Gears of War and then ride XBLA and multiplats till November. Solid plan.

Sony is just releasing too many exclusives in the supposed year of the PS4. They were better off making some of these games launch titles.


Sony had no choice, the release dates were pushed back. What are they going to do, launch a bunch of dumbed down last gen titles? No doubt they would slaughter in the beginning Microsoft if The Last Guardian and FFVersusXIII got pushed back but we'll  have to wait after E3 for the fallout. The 360 and PS3 are going to be running 2013 with their multiplats alone regardless of whether the new consoles are coming.

Last of Us would make a great launch title.


Apparently you haven't been listening to Naughty Dog. The reason they didnt make Uncharted 4 on the PS3 is because every game they make has a graphical leap. If Uncharted 4 was going to have a graphical leap, Last of Us P4 would've left the PS3 version in the dust. You get used to this type of quality with Naughty Dog and truly believe them because they deliver.

You make it seem like they would refuse Sony if they demanded it. If Sony orders it, they would do it, personal philosophies be damned.

Just saying from a business perspective, LOU is better suited as a launch title.


Sony is known to give a lot of freedom to developers they can trust. If they didn't Sony Japan and Polyphony studios would be on Sonys shit list. They are good with second party as well. 

Anyway, the reason the Last of Us is the perfect farewell to the PS3 before the next gen begins is because it could just be starting a new franchise that could stand the test of time. Its a strong IP to attract westerners and also the 'Walking Dead' is written all over that. Gaming fans will definitely love to get their hands on any action like that, especially if its made by Naughty Dog. That and the installed base of the PS3 is at peak potential to see where its top sales land. The first game could see anywhere from 2-3 million sales. The anticipation for that game has grown to huge levels. That would make it the perfect platform for next gen to have a sequel, think about it.

I dunno....just going off the time tested fact that new IPs late in the gen tend to fail and new IPs at starts of the gen have a greater chance of seeing greater sales and sequels.

Off the top of my head.....Gears of War and Uncharted. Late gen examples....Alan Wake, Battle Royale.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Ckmlb1 on 10 January 2013
kain_kusanagi said:
Yes, while games as killer awesome as Halo 4 prove that our current gen systems still have life left, at some point your have sold to everyone who is going to buy your console. We have nearly reached that saturation point. The only thing you can do as a manufacturer is discontinue the old, end support, and put out a new model and sell it to everyone who wants the latest games.

That's not crazy, it's good business.


I don't think they've reached that point, both Xbox 360 and PS3 (PS3 is still 300 dollars, as much as the standard Wii U) can still get cheaper and sell more, plus 3rd world markets. But the sales are down year over year, so it's a good time to release new consoles. 



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X-Factor11 on 10 January 2013

Game and hardware sales are down in 2012 by about 20-30% .
New consoles are needed because the gap between PC and consoles gets significantly larger as time passes.

see the annoyed gamer's complete explanation on gametrailers.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VJcJ2ufW_k

Software for the PS3 and 360 will still be supported for at least 2-3 years (the last games released and downgraded ports) after the new consoles come out. I don't see why there is a reason to complain over it. 7-8 year console cycle is the longest any console generation has stretched. Most of the time it is about 4-6 years max. PS2 still had games released for it up until about 2008-2009.



S.T.A.G.E. on 10 January 2013
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
Well MS has the right state of mind. Gears of War and then ride XBLA and multiplats till November. Solid plan.

Sony is just releasing too many exclusives in the supposed year of the PS4. They were better off making some of these games launch titles.


Sony had no choice, the release dates were pushed back. What are they going to do, launch a bunch of dumbed down last gen titles? No doubt they would slaughter in the beginning Microsoft if The Last Guardian and FFVersusXIII got pushed back but we'll  have to wait after E3 for the fallout. The 360 and PS3 are going to be running 2013 with their multiplats alone regardless of whether the new consoles are coming.

Last of Us would make a great launch title.


Apparently you haven't been listening to Naughty Dog. The reason they didnt make Uncharted 4 on the PS3 is because every game they make has a graphical leap. If Uncharted 4 was going to have a graphical leap, Last of Us P4 would've left the PS3 version in the dust. You get used to this type of quality with Naughty Dog and truly believe them because they deliver.

You make it seem like they would refuse Sony if they demanded it. If Sony orders it, they would do it, personal philosophies be damned.

Just saying from a business perspective, LOU is better suited as a launch title.


Sony is known to give a lot of freedom to developers they can trust. If they didn't Sony Japan and Polyphony studios would be on Sonys shit list. They are good with second party as well. 

Anyway, the reason the Last of Us is the perfect farewell to the PS3 before the next gen begins is because it could just be starting a new franchise that could stand the test of time. Its a strong IP to attract westerners and also the 'Walking Dead' is written all over that. Gaming fans will definitely love to get their hands on any action like that, especially if its made by Naughty Dog. That and the installed base of the PS3 is at peak potential to see where its top sales land. The first game could see anywhere from 2-3 million sales. The anticipation for that game has grown to huge levels. That would make it the perfect platform for next gen to have a sequel, think about it.

I dunno....just going off the time tested fact that new IPs late in the gen tend to fail and new IPs at starts of the gen have a greater chance of seeing greater sales and sequels.

Off the top of my head.....Gears of War and Uncharted. Late gen examples....Alan Wake, Battle Royale.


Alan Wake came out in 2010 whatever it sold it deserved. Playstation Battle Royale cannot be compared as its existence is controversial much like DMC. Gears of War was marketed very well from the beginning and westerners ate it up. Uncharted didnt sell stellar until time went by, which is why Sony is always noted for their legs. Sony has legs, Microsoft has quick bursts of sales and then it goes down unless they bundle it.



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Jay520 on 10 January 2013

Low hardware sales. It's as simple as that.



sales2099 on 10 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
Well MS has the right state of mind. Gears of War and then ride XBLA and multiplats till November. Solid plan.

Sony is just releasing too many exclusives in the supposed year of the PS4. They were better off making some of these games launch titles.


Sony had no choice, the release dates were pushed back. What are they going to do, launch a bunch of dumbed down last gen titles? No doubt they would slaughter in the beginning Microsoft if The Last Guardian and FFVersusXIII got pushed back but we'll  have to wait after E3 for the fallout. The 360 and PS3 are going to be running 2013 with their multiplats alone regardless of whether the new consoles are coming.

Last of Us would make a great launch title.


Apparently you haven't been listening to Naughty Dog. The reason they didnt make Uncharted 4 on the PS3 is because every game they make has a graphical leap. If Uncharted 4 was going to have a graphical leap, Last of Us P4 would've left the PS3 version in the dust. You get used to this type of quality with Naughty Dog and truly believe them because they deliver.

You make it seem like they would refuse Sony if they demanded it. If Sony orders it, they would do it, personal philosophies be damned.

Just saying from a business perspective, LOU is better suited as a launch title.


Sony is known to give a lot of freedom to developers they can trust. If they didn't Sony Japan and Polyphony studios would be on Sonys shit list. They are good with second party as well. 

Anyway, the reason the Last of Us is the perfect farewell to the PS3 before the next gen begins is because it could just be starting a new franchise that could stand the test of time. Its a strong IP to attract westerners and also the 'Walking Dead' is written all over that. Gaming fans will definitely love to get their hands on any action like that, especially if its made by Naughty Dog. That and the installed base of the PS3 is at peak potential to see where its top sales land. The first game could see anywhere from 2-3 million sales. The anticipation for that game has grown to huge levels. That would make it the perfect platform for next gen to have a sequel, think about it.

I dunno....just going off the time tested fact that new IPs late in the gen tend to fail and new IPs at starts of the gen have a greater chance of seeing greater sales and sequels.

Off the top of my head.....Gears of War and Uncharted. Late gen examples....Alan Wake, Battle Royale.


Alan Wake came out in 2010 whatever it sold it deserved. Playstation Battle Royale cannot be compared as its existence is controversial much like DMC. Gears of War was marketed very well from the beginning and westerners ate it up. Uncharted didnt sell stellar until time went by, which is why Sony is always noted for their legs. Sony has legs, Microsoft has quick bursts of sales and then it goes down unless they bundle it.

Be a DJ, cause I like how you spin.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

ps3-sales! on 10 January 2013

I agree. I don't think new consoles should come until holiday 2014



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  • Ps4

 

Currently playing: Witcher 3, Walking Dead S1/2, GTA5, Dying Light, Tomb Raider Remaster, MGS Ground Zeros

TeddostheFireKing on 10 January 2013
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
sales2099 said:
Well MS has the right state of mind. Gears of War and then ride XBLA and multiplats till November. Solid plan.

Sony is just releasing too many exclusives in the supposed year of the PS4. They were better off making some of these games launch titles.


Sony had no choice, the release dates were pushed back. What are they going to do, launch a bunch of dumbed down last gen titles? No doubt they would slaughter in the beginning Microsoft if The Last Guardian and FFVersusXIII got pushed back but we'll  have to wait after E3 for the fallout. The 360 and PS3 are going to be running 2013 with their multiplats alone regardless of whether the new consoles are coming.

Last of Us would make a great launch title.


Apparently you haven't been listening to Naughty Dog. The reason they didnt make Uncharted 4 on the PS3 is because every game they make has a graphical leap. If Uncharted 4 was going to have a graphical leap, Last of Us P4 would've left the PS3 version in the dust. You get used to this type of quality with Naughty Dog and truly believe them because they deliver.

You make it seem like they would refuse Sony if they demanded it. If Sony orders it, they would do it, personal philosophies be damned.

Just saying from a business perspective, LOU is better suited as a launch title.


Sony is known to give a lot of freedom to developers they can trust. If they didn't Sony Japan and Polyphony studios would be on Sonys shit list. They are good with second party as well. 

Anyway, the reason the Last of Us is the perfect farewell to the PS3 before the next gen begins is because it could just be starting a new franchise that could stand the test of time. Its a strong IP to attract westerners and also the 'Walking Dead' is written all over that. Gaming fans will definitely love to get their hands on any action like that, especially if its made by Naughty Dog. That and the installed base of the PS3 is at peak potential to see where its top sales land. The first game could see anywhere from 2-3 million sales. The anticipation for that game has grown to huge levels. That would make it the perfect platform for next gen to have a sequel, think about it.

I dunno....just going off the time tested fact that new IPs late in the gen tend to fail and new IPs at starts of the gen have a greater chance of seeing greater sales and sequels.

Off the top of my head.....Gears of War and Uncharted. Late gen examples....Alan Wake, Battle Royale.


Alan Wake came out in 2010 whatever it sold it deserved. Playstation Battle Royale cannot be compared as its existence is controversial much like DMC. Gears of War was marketed very well from the beginning and westerners ate it up. Uncharted didnt sell stellar until time went by, which is why Sony is always noted for their legs. Sony has legs, Microsoft has quick bursts of sales and then it goes down unless they bundle it.

Be a DJ, cause I like how you spin.




On topic:

Hardware sales are going down, but are managing to be held together, but software sales are nearing death, it's time for a fresh start. The sooner the better.



d21lewis on 10 January 2013

Why not just....I don't know....lower the price of their current consoles? Wouldn't that help hardware sales?