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Are you for or against gay marriage?

For 290 49.49%
 
Against 171 29.18%
 
don't know 16 2.73%
 
whatever who cares? 108 18.43%
 
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TruckOSaurus on 09 January 2013
SxyxS said:
I was and am against gay marriage.
I'm not religious therefore it has nothing to do with religion,but marriage is and was always a thing between man and woman.
if gay people want to live together they could and should.they can invent a new word and ceremony for living together in a official way,but not a marriage.
just as a gay male couple shouldn't be allowed to adopt children,as they can't produce some.

This gay marriage blabla is just a fashion thing and it is only pushed in the western world as part of the agenda 21(and the agenda 21 is pushed by some psychpathic occult idiots who are meeting every year at a very homosexual ceremony where almost only males are allowed-the bohemian grove)
and sadly most western people are following this fashion,ignoring that they are not the center of the world and that the rest of the world gives a shit about gay marriage.
How stupid these white moaning pseudo"good doers" are?extremly.
Those white asskissers(and they are.i'm part of a minority and they've been trying to kiss my as for years)
are the worst kind of racist on planet earth.
They are racist to themselves.
They oppose you when you are white and against homosexuals or other religions,but they will acceppt and tolerate this stupid behaviour when you are eg a muslim-than they call it culture.
The same with this stupid thread.This guy wouldn't even dare to make such a thread about allowing gay marriage in muslim countries.
People in the usa can ignore that workers in china must work for next to nothing as slaves to make rich monopolists with no scruples even richer (foxconn,apple,ms)but they care whether gay people in the western world can marry or not.that's pathetic .
You can treat people like shit(even in our so called democracys),let them have 3 jobs and still not enough money to survive,but hey-when you are gay you can marry.(this gay marriage is just a trick to take your attention away from real important issues.the trick is simple.the minority trick.Take a white liar and massmurder like gw bush=killer,people are protesting.
replace him with a black liar and massmurder=it's ok.no more white asskissing protesters.
Ask yourself;how is it possible that the same government that is pushing this gay agenda in the west is helping extremly religious racist,anti women, anti gay-dictatorships like saudi arabia(slavery until 1967)to stay in power ?
If you wanna help gay people or other minorities than try to help them where they need real help and not where they can live pretty good just like in the western world.





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Dodece on 09 January 2013
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Andrespetmonkey said:
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Do you know how many ancient societies allowed pedophilia by modern standards? A lot more than those that didn't, not that that's to say it makes it morally right, but to say they weren't exactly low on the morality spectrum. Anyway, this is irrelevant to my point, which is that the acceptence and documentation of homosexuality is not an exclusively modern phenomenon in the western world. My point has nothing to do with rights and wrongs.


Well then, we should be glad Christianity ended stuff like that in the Western World :)

I'm not one for oppression and persecution of innocent people, but you can be glad at whatever you want mate.

Im glad it brought end to slavery, pedophilia, animal/human sacriface, homosexuality among leaders and generals, paganism and idoltary.  Altho, I admit it brough quite the few problems as well, mostly coming from the corrupted leaders

The age of enlightenment brought an end to legal slavery, and it has made it illegal to murder people on relgious grounds. It has attempted to address the real problem with pedophilia. Namely the misogyny that allowed perpetrators to get away with their crimes, because they alone had legal rights and legal standing. It also promoted equal treatment under the law of people of all faiths, and of all sexual orientations. I also must say this Idolotary isn't even a crime under Christianity. Christians do worship physical representations of their God, and other key figures in their faith. They even worship relics. You are probably thinking of Judaisms prohibitions.

Christianity on the other hand has actively supported slavery, and indentured servitude. Actively promoted practices that involved the sacrifice of individuals in the name of its god. Promoted misogyny that gave victims of pedophiles no legal standing. Didn't stop homosexuality, but just drove it underground. Hasn't even put a end to other faiths. Basically Christianity hasn't been any kind of force for good. That the Age of Enlightenment brought. Once that broke Christianities strangle hold. Things started to get a lot better for human dignity.

I don't know if you are being serious, but if you are I feel truly sorry for you.



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melbye on 09 January 2013

The argument that marriage is about a woman and man loving and honoring each other when the custom started as a way to settle conflicts and strenghten allies. Children were basically sold



Sensei on 09 January 2013

I'm all for it. There's no real proven argument against gay marriage. Just respect people and let them be happy. They're not harming anyone's rights and sexual orientation is no one's business.

Religion arguments are just plain dumb.

If I ever had gay son/daughter, there would be nothing I could do anyway. Just accept it and move on. If my kid is happy, I'm happy.



MrBubbles on 09 January 2013
BasilZero said:
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ps. all christians are idolators and are going to hell


Was that really necessary especially from the fact that the OP stated dont mention religion ~-~

they may not be been quoted or mentioned in my post but it was directed to someone who mentioned idolatry


Regardless, stating that "All Christians" will go to hell is wrong to say.

Along with the fact isnt it against the forum rules to insult/attack a person or a group of people of different race/age/gender/faith-Beliefs?

Not gonna report you - I'm just saying.


oh.  its not an insult or an attack.  its a statement of their own beliefs.  christians are idolators by their very nature, idolators go to hell. 



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killerzX on 09 January 2013

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sperrico87 on 09 January 2013
fordy said:
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You should be asking: "In what way are you for or against gay marriage?", as you can have both a personal opinion and an opinion with regard to politics or to the public.  For instance, I answered the poll question as "against" due to me personally being against it, but legally it is an entirely different matter.

My personal feelings are that, within my family, and with regards to raising my children, I will not tolerate homosexual marriage, and it will not be discussed or given any credibility in my home. Homosexual behavior ceases procreation, and therefore it serves no meaningful purpose, and is merely a social act with no significance.

Since government is involved, and that won't be changing anytime soon, my political opinion is that homosexuals cannot be prohibited from a legal marriage, as a government/ paper marriage is meaningless in the eyes of everything except the law, so therefore what does it matter to heterosexuals like myself if homosexuals commit to a legal marriage or not? I don't like it, I never will, but there isn't any reasonable legal basis for prohibiting it.

I should add, though, as I have in other threads about "gay marriage", that it is quite a double-standard for the people who advocate for these so-called "gay rights" when most of them would be horrified at the thought of legalizing plural marriage. I don't see any difference between the two. If marriage is something that is perfectly suitable to non-heterosexual people, why is it so bad for non-monogamous people to be legally wed? You support homosexual rights but not non-monogamous rights?

 

And what would you do if your child told you that they were gay?


He would know that I love him/her and will treat him/her the same as my heterosexual children, but I didn't support his/her lifestyle. 

So tell me more about "meaningless social acts" on this discussion forum involving video games. A little hypocritical, isn't it?

You realise that not everything in life has to have a productive purpose, right? If that were the case, we'd be nothing but robots.

I was referring to the marriage as being a meaningless social act, as the whole purpose of marriage up until the year 2000 was procreation.  A marriage between two people with the same sexual orientation is unnecessary.  The reason a man and woman get married to settle down with one another and start a family.  It's the whole purpose of the human race.  We need to have babies, otherwise we all die out in less than a hundred years.

So where is gay marriage disallowing heterosexual marriages? You're talking like it's a contageous disease or something, where if it's allowed, everyone will want it.

Look around you. Society is FULL of unnecessary things. I mean for gods sake, we have one of the greatest libraries of information ever known at our fingertips, yet plenty still use it to look up pictures of cats!

Besides, would you advocate forced heterosexual marriages if it meant the children were coming into a loveless household?

You must not have read my posts at all.  Nowhere did I say or even imply that gay marriage would disallow heterosexual marriage, I don't know where you're getting that from.  I also don't advocate marriage for anyone.  Do it if you want, otherwise don't do it.  I neither advocate it nor do I oppose it.  Also you're not addressing at all the underlying reason for marriage which is a man and woman having babies, so as to ensure the survival or our species.



 

kljesta64 on 09 January 2013

not against gay marriage ..but raising a child im all against it.



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fordy on 09 January 2013
killerzX said:

what if he doesnt believe people are born gay?

I know with absolute certainty that when i have children, they wont be gay.


No you don't. You'll just be willfully ignorant, because they'd choose not to tell you about it.

And people wonder why the LBGT community has significantly higher rates of suicide...you'd wish that upon your kid?



Kantor on 09 January 2013
warlord74 said:

Actually it the opposite of what you are saying.  In priciple they still can get pregnant happened to my aunt who got pregnant at 49.  And my brother who just got his wife pregnant last year.  Doctors said his wife was sterile.  how many times does it happen to adam and steve 0 because in principle it is impossible.

Alright, if you insist.

A man with a vasectomy or a woman with a hysterectomy getting married. Permitted?



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