If you are against gay marriage, explain why without mentioning religion

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Andrespetmonkey said:

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Andrespetmonkey said:

Do you know how many ancient societies allowed pedophilia by modern standards? A lot more than those that didn't, not that that's to say it makes it morally right, but to say they weren't exactly low on the morality spectrum. Anyway, this is irrelevant to my point, which is that the acceptence and documentation of homosexuality is not an exclusively modern phenomenon in the western world. My point has nothing to do with rights and wrongs.

Well then, we should be glad Christianity ended stuff like that in the Western World :)

I'm not one for oppression and persecution of innocent people, but you can be glad at whatever you want mate.

Im glad it brought end to slavery, pedophilia, animal/human sacriface, homosexuality among leaders and generals, paganism and idoltary.  Altho, I admit it brough quite the few problems as well, mostly coming from the corrupted leaders

The age of enlightenment brought an end to legal slavery, and it has made it illegal to murder people on relgious grounds. It has attempted to address the real problem with pedophilia. Namely the misogyny that allowed perpetrators to get away with their crimes, because they alone had legal rights and legal standing. It also promoted equal treatment under the law of people of all faiths, and of all sexual orientations. I also must say this Idolotary isn't even a crime under Christianity. Christians do worship physical representations of their God, and other key figures in their faith. They even worship relics. You are probably thinking of Judaisms prohibitions.

Christianity on the other hand has actively supported slavery, and indentured servitude. Actively promoted practices that involved the sacrifice of individuals in the name of its god. Promoted misogyny that gave victims of pedophiles no legal standing. Didn't stop homosexuality, but just drove it underground. Hasn't even put a end to other faiths. Basically Christianity hasn't been any kind of force for good. That the Age of Enlightenment brought. Once that broke Christianities strangle hold. Things started to get a lot better for human dignity.

I don't know if you are being serious, but if you are I feel truly sorry for you.