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Mazty said:
KHlover said:

What a coincidence this happended right after Apple won against Samsung in the US. Again, this has nothing to do with "humanizing" companies. But you don't seem to understand that certain events occuring between to companies WILL lead to drastic actions and humans ARE the ones taking the actions. And if you manage to anger the management directing the course of the company you CAN get a company to get mad at you, since the main actions are taken by the management. If these actions utterly fail the shareholders might want the management removed, but the management still took the decision. 


If you think companies get mad I'm going to guess you've never had to deal with actual management of a company. 

The legal teams in Apple and Samsung were out for each others blood (read: money), however samsung was still making the screens for the ipad. Go figure. If you think boards of directors are huffy men taking pop shots at each other over ego issues, I can assure you that couldn't be further from reality. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15400984

I think it's clear that we have different ideas of what's POSSIBLE, so I don't think arguing any further would lead to anything right now.



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KHlover said:
Mazty said:
KHlover said:

What a coincidence this happended right after Apple won against Samsung in the US. Again, this has nothing to do with "humanizing" companies. But you don't seem to understand that certain events occuring between to companies WILL lead to drastic actions and humans ARE the ones taking the actions. And if you manage to anger the management directing the course of the company you CAN get a company to get mad at you, since the main actions are taken by the management. If these actions utterly fail the shareholders might want the management removed, but the management still took the decision. 


If you think companies get mad I'm going to guess you've never had to deal with actual management of a company. 

The legal teams in Apple and Samsung were out for each others blood (read: money), however samsung was still making the screens for the ipad. Go figure. If you think boards of directors are huffy men taking pop shots at each other over ego issues, I can assure you that couldn't be further from reality. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15400984

I think it's clear that we have different ideas of what's POSSIBLE, so I don't think arguing any further would lead to anything right now.


That's one man who took things personally, not Apple as a company. Even as CEO the board of directors could have told him to piss off if he ended up going in the wrong direction. As I said, companies only care about money; there's no time for grudges. 




Nintendo has a myriad of problems with third parties.

One of them is the third party games that Nintendo fans tend to cry about not having the most (GTA, MGS, etc.) are not family games. So third parties don't really have much help from Nintendo at all in carving out this audience, Nintendo's attitude is basically "well you guys do all the work". Mario or Wii Fit U don't do much for the sales of a game like Crysis.

And Nintendo makes almost exclusively family-friendly style games. That's their entire portfolio. The only wrinkle they've added really is the casual gaming fad with things like fitness and music and mini-game fests taking off.

But under Iwata they've largely even scrapped trying to make games like Eternal Darkness, Perfect Dark, NBA Courtside, Conker's BFD, Ken Griffey Jr. MLB, the Star Wars Rogue Squadron games, etc.

It's never a problem for Nintendo to get a Sonic or Rayman or Skylanders or LEGO or Just Dance or Zumba Fitness game ... because these are brands that Nintendo's own IP pave the way for so publishers know there's an audience for that already (ie: Mario, Mario Kart, Wii Fit, Wii Sports, etc.).  



If Nintendo are meant to create this user base for third party FPS games then why have 3rd parties stated we cannot compete against Nintendo on their platform?

Clearly Nintendo is not offering any competition in the FPS genre atm so now the reason is "business decision" coincidentally after we herd what happened with Origin all those months ago now.

Also Nintendo did not create an audience for Skylanders. The forward thinking at Activision is what made Skylanders big. The game execution created an audience for itself, with its battle area and extra packs of new characters. I can with confidence say that Nintendo are kicking themselves for not thinking of doing this with a Pokemon game. I also cna say with confidence that is Skylanders was jsut a game without the addons not many would have noticed it and would have been buried amounts all the shovelware.



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
Clearly Nintendo is not offering any competition in the FPS genre atm so now the reason is "business decision" coincidentally after we herd what happened with Origin all those months ago now.

It is the first-party's sole responsibility to nurture a healthy environment and blaze a trail for third-parties to thrive on their systems.



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noname2200 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Clearly Nintendo is not offering any competition in the FPS genre atm so now the reason is "business decision" coincidentally after we herd what happened with Origin all those months ago now.

It is the first-party's sole responsibility to nurture a healthy environment and blaze a trail for third-parties to thrive on their systems.


Thanks for ignoring my first line.

 

I would almost argue based on the current performance of only 1million units each on PS3 and 360, a better business decision would be to make the franchise Wii U exclusive as their is no competition for the game there unlike on the hd twins which have halo, killzone, COD, resistance etc.. If they released the full trilogy it could grow with Nintendo's help. Sureit is a huge risk but a risk worth taking. If it doesnt grow then nothing lost as they would simply port C3 to the other systems.



 

 

When Nintendo refuses, companies hold a bitter grudge!!

Nintendo should publish any game that developers want to see on the console when other publishers won't. Problem solved, eliminate third party publishers and strengthen relations with developers!



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It's not surprising considering the low sales of Black Ops 2 and AC3, there's no reason for 3rd parties to port games onto the WiiU right now.



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

It would probably only sell 50k so whats the point?

 

Edit: On the WiiU



Train wreck said:
Aielyn said:
Again, I point to Ubisoft, Sega, and Warner Bros. I point to Capcom with Monster Hunter, Square Enix with Dragon Quest, Namco Bandai with Tekken (note that not a single Tekken game came to the Wii). I point to Bayonetta 2, and to Ninja Gaiden 3. Activision and EA are the only ones that don't seem to at least be supporting the Wii U with some big titles.

And Ubisoft with ZombiU laughs in your face, by the way.

Again I point to the low sales of each of the games you mentioned. and im sure the ps3 and x360 and what ever console they release next will have the aforementioned developers on board also.  And I'm sure given the resources and time, Zombi U will find its way to competeting consoles, like just dance before it.

Erm... low sales of which games? Tekken? That's the only one that's selling poorly so far.

The other games I mentioned were ZombiU, Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest, Bayonetta 2, and Ninja Gaiden 3. Now, DQ and Bayonetta 2 haven't released. ZombiU is selling extremely well. Monster Hunter is doing great in Japan. Ninja Gaiden 3 is doing fine in Japan, but VGChartz isn't tracking its Japanese sales for some unknown reason (one of a number of glitches in terms of Wii U game data) - I know it's doing fine, because it charted fairly well according to Media Create.

Besides which, I really don't see why weak sales of a few launch titles would convince them not to support the system with the games they already have in development for the system. Your logic is just astounding if you think otherwise.

By the way, Just Dance found its way to other consoles, where it didn't perform as well as it did on the Wii. Indeed, most games that started on Wii and then found their way to other consoles did worse on those consoles than on Wii.