We aren't sick of paying for the poor, elderly, and insane. We are sick of paying for those that abuse the system and don't deserve it.

Instead of cutting the programs we just need to kick people off the dole that don't deserve it.

My money shouldn't go to a third generation welfare abuser who gets free money and housing and uses his checks to buy beer and cigarettes.

Yeah, close the programs for the insane, why would someone who would kill people and not even realize it need to be taken care of anyway? -_-

Honestly, if the people who complain about having to pay for poor/elderly actually take care of them themselves those programs could be shut down. But I don't think it'll happen.

Sure, I don't see why not.


It has worked for many other civilized countries.

I think they'll be fine with it.

Just distract them with military ads during football games and other sporting events and have the Department of Defe... err... Offense fund a ton of hollywood films for their consumption.

Turn the populace into a bunch of jingos and tell them social programs are a necessary sacrifice in order to "protect Amuurka".

PRWORA and TANF had/have their own issues though... Clinton nuetered welfare but it was short-sighted.

Cutting "defense" is actually what's needed.

Well, I was hoping you could fill me in on that part.

I agree with this. The government should promote welfare and betterment in those who place their economic welfare into its hands, such that they will get no actual money period, but only entitlements to certain things (housing, clothing, health care, food, access to transportation, mandatory education or employment training so long as they're not too unhealthy to do so), and that the things they are given should be only what they need to be given. For instance, food stamps should only cover healthy food.

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Would lead to more desperate people, more homeless people, slums, skyrocketing crime rates.... just off the top of my head.

Yep. I'd be happy to pay taxes if it went to that. The current system is broken and lets people live on welfare with free housing better than people working a full time min-wage job.

Welfare should be a hand up not a hand out.

We don't need to steal money from important stuff like defense to fund lazy deadbeats who have figured out how to game the system forever.

Incorrect. America's defense spending is exorbitantly high and the industrial-military complex is interfering with the democratic process. America's defense industry, per dollar, is one of the least efficient in the world. Hell, we shouldn't even be calling it defense spending as much of this revenue is being used to destabilize other regions which simply worsens America's international image while providing their enemies (namely militant Muslims) opportunities to recruit and expand.

That being said, I believe that dependencies should also be cut (although not in the same fashion as Bill Clinton's disastrous cuts to welfare). I am an anarcho-communist and although that system can hardly be implemented in America, I believe that they teach us an important lesson about productivity. All able bodied individuals should be provided suitable, gainful employment without undercutting the existing job market. Frown on it all you want but those on welfare should be treated as employees of the public sector.